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Section V

The Lying Jail House Informant,Robert Donald Hughes

When I first met Robert Donald Hughes 338 in Los Angeles County Men's Central Jail 323 in April 1983, I had no way of knowing he was a practiced predator already on his fourth jailhouse confession-for-hire. Hughes was 28 324 with more than twenty arrests since 1969 325 and convictions running from theft to burglary to attempted robbery. 325A He had already alleged confessions from three other homicide defendants. 327 Cloaked in a Born-Again Christian persona, 425 he opened with God and hope 335 — knowing I was a juvenile, 334 a stranger, and visibly broken 337 — and began extracting the details of my charges. 336

I gave him those details. I was seventeen, in jail for the killing of my mother, undone in every way a person can be undone, and the God-talk had echoes of my Catholic upbringing — anything that felt like home, even faintly, was a tiny salve on the raw, tortured nerve my soul had become. Hughes was a well-rounded operator. He offered not just spiritual reassurance but legal advice too, telling me he could see I was innocent — just as I'd been saying — and that his years as a repeat criminal defendant gave him real working knowledge of the system, the kind that might help me. I believed him. That was the whole point of the persona.

Hughes later told a jury that in our very first half-hour 340 conversation 339 I confessed to murdering my mother. He lied. What Hughes wanted from prosecutor Phillip Rabichow was the same thing he'd wanted from every prosecutor before him: a discount on the time he had earned. After the California Department of Corrections recommended against early release 342 and the bid was denied, 343 Rabichow escalated. 344 Up the chain — to District Attorney Robert Philabosian, a former Van Nuys colleague. 345 Even Rabichow's own office didn't like how hard he was pushing for the snitch. 346

Hughes admitted he had been actively hunting for confessions to peddle when he met me. 330 The preliminary hearing judge, Judith Meisels Ashmann, saw it. 331 Trial judge Richard Kolostian called him “basically a manipulative opportunist.” 341 And let him testify anyway. The price was my life: before Hughes took the stand, Rabichow had offered a plea to voluntary manslaughter with a six-year cap — the State's signal that its case was thin. After Hughes took the stand, the offer was gone. 701

What Hughes did to me wasn't aberration. It was the script. 346A In 1989 the Los Angeles County Grand Jury was convened 347 to investigate exactly this pattern: rampant perjury by jailhouse informants. 348 Snitches routinely gave false testimony. 349 They re-worded innocent statements from unsuspecting defendants 350 — precisely how Hughes worked the police reports I'd handed him into a manufactured confession. Their fabrications invariably aligned with the State's theory. 351 They were paid in early-release time. 352 The danger was sharpest for juveniles. 353 The prosecutors who testified before the Grand Jury conceded such claims are inherently suspect. 354

The Grand Jury saw informant perjury everywhere it looked — and could not find a single prosecution the LA District Attorney's Office had ever brought against any of them. 355 Not one.

That is the system Hughes worked. What he did inside it was sell a scared 17-year-old up the river for life, to shave nine months off his own sentence. The specific lies he told to do it, and the contradictions in his own words and writing that expose them, follow below. There are twenty-seven.

  1. On the stand Hughes painted me as cold and frightening. Of my supposed confession he said:

    • "HE DIDN'T SEEM LIKE HE WAS TOO BUSTED UP ABOUT IT, EITHER ... HE WAS MORE BUSTED UP ABOUT ... BEING IN JAIL THAN WAS HIS MOM DYING. IT'S COLD, MAN";390
    • "IT WAS A PRETTY COLD THING" 391 and;
    • "THAT'S BAD. HE'D GIVE ME THE CHILLS." 392

    This 185-pound former combat Marine and career criminal told the jury he had been afraid of me — a 97-pound 277 juvenile — and was relieved we were not in the same cell. 393

    Days after the “confession” 394 — and after I'd been moved to a cell down the hall — this man who claimed to be terrified of me wrote me a series of warm letters. 396

    Defense H:
    "I AM PRAYING FOR YOU LITTLE BRO. I FEEL YOU ARE GOING TO THE STREETS SOON. PRAISE GOD. LOVE YOU, BOBBY." 397
    Defense I:
    "PRAISE JESUS . . . THE LORD GIVES ME A STRONG FEELING YOU WILL BE OUT OF THIS PIT SOON." 398
    Defense J:
    "THE LORD GAVE YOU A GOOD HEART." 399

    Confronted with them on the stand, Hughes denied writing a single one. 400 Two hours and twenty minutes of noon recess later, 401 he admitted he had written all of them. 402 A man who believes you just confessed to butchering your own mother does not write “Praise God. Love you, Bobby.” He does not lie under oath about whether he wrote it.

  2. In another letter Hughes wrote me: "KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT ABOUT YOUR CASE TOTALLY." 403

    Read that twice. The man who claimed he had taken my confession to deliver it to justice 405 was telling me, in writing, to confess to no one else. Justice would want corroboration. A snitch protecting his exclusive product wants silence. He wasn't worried I'd be cleared. He was worried another snitch in the same viper's pit would catch the same naive teenager talking, and cut into his deal.

  3. Hughes claimed I confessed to an attack in a very specific order. 356 First, an unarmed struggle in which my mother ripped my shirt. Then steak knives. Then the trophy. Then the exercise bar. The sequence — call it RKTB: rip, knife, trophy, bar — is forensically impossible. Four independent reasons:

    a) Deputy Medical Examiner Irwin L. Golden testified that a single blow from the exercise bar completely fractured my mother's right arm. 357 The defensive slash wounds 358 appear only on the left hand 360 of my right-handed 359 mother. Her dominant arm was already broken and immobile when the knives came out. The knives were not used before the bar.

    b) Hughes said I "GETS SOME STEAK KNIVES AND CATCHES HER IN THE HALL, AND, WHAM, HE STABS HER WITH TWO STEAK KNIVES." 356 “Catches her” — after only an unarmed struggle — requires that she be upright. But she had two pinpoint non-penetrating hesitation marks: one on her upper back, 361 one on her left flank. 362 Those are not made on an upright fighter. Those are made by resting a knife tip against a face-down, motionless body and pressing in. 651 She was face-down when I found her and when paramedic Jay Lovato saw her minutes later. 602 Golden added that the exercise bar's frontal skull fracture would have caused immediate unconsciousness. 698 The knives were not used before the bar.

    c) Had the struggle begun near her purse in the living room, my mother would not have waited politely while I walked to the kitchen for knives and came back. Adrenaline drives the attacked out of the house, or to a phone. Not to the spot the attacker just left to arm up. The shirt-ripping struggle could not have come first.

    d) Each weapon lived in a different corner of the house: knives in the kitchen (southeast), trophy in my old bedroom (northwest), bar in my parents' bedroom (southwest). The RKTB sequence requires my mother to remain passively in place while I made three separate weapon-fetching trips around the house. No order really fits.

    Hughes did not describe an attack. He recited a list.

  4. If the order is impossible, where did Hughes get it?

    From Detective Monsue's Follow-Up Report — the one I have always acknowledged Hughes conned me into sharing. 365 The ripped shirt, steak knives, trophy, and exercise bar appear in that report 364 in exactly that order. 363 The police never claimed the listing order described the attack sequence 366 — it was just the order in which detectives found the items in the house. With four weapons there are 24 possible orderings; the odds of two independent witnesses landing on the same RKTB by chance are 1 in 24. Hughes didn't beat the odds. He copied the list. [Cf. § V (3) (a) (b) (c) and (d)]

  5. Hughes and the police painted a close-in, hand-to-hand, five-weapon battle for my mother's life: stab wounds to her back, 650 deep slashes to her left hand, 576 at least ten head-blows with a hand-held 574 marble-based trophy 571 and extensive scalp bleeding, 573 a smashed arm 584 and forehead 647 from a heavy bat-like exercise bar, and a yellow cord pulled around her neck hard enough to leave visible ligature marks. 609 Investigators called it a "PARTICULARLY BRUTAL" attack. 371

    And then look at me. At the unclothed body search after interrogation, 372 I had no injuries anywhere. 373 No obvious or large drops of blood on my clothing or person. 54, 55, 66 No shirt fibers under my mother's fingernails. No marks consistent with shirt-ripping on her hands at autopsy. 565 Not a single broken fingernail. 566 My fingernails were collected for analysis 582 and showed no skin scrapings consistent with a struggle. 582A One button was missing from my plaid outer shirt; 384 the button was never found at the scene, and the shirt was the old work shirt I wore to fix my car — 200 a shirt Linhart himself logged as bearing “numerous dark, textured, non-blood stains,” 201 apparently automotive grease.

    A teenager who fought a five-weapon, ten-plus-blow battle to the death with a grown woman comes out marked. I did not.

  6. Hughes said I "WHALED ON HER WITH THAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE" with the exercise bar. 374

    Dr. Golden attributed exactly two injuries to the bar: the fractured right arm 584 and the frontal skull fracture. 647 The other blunt-force injuries came from the trophy, used in a stamping motion. Two blows is not a “whaling.” But a whaling sells better on the stand. Having read about the bar in the police reports, Hughes simply amplified.

  7. Hughes claimed that after the attack I had noticed blood had spattered onto my clothing 375 and told him I had "FUCKED UP" 376 by not changing before the police arrived.

    The eight droplets Linhart eventually found 70 were sub-millimeter. Trained officers watched me at close range for ninety minutes and missed them entirely. 54, 55, 66 Linhart only resolved them under a microscope. 379 By every account, including Hughes's own — "BLOWING IT" 380 — I was hysterical that morning. 224 The notion that, in the middle of a five-weapon meltdown, I was also performing the "CAREFUL OBSERVATION" 381 required to spot specks invisible to seasoned cops is absurd. I did not see the droplets land — whether they came from expiration, [§ III (6)] from lifting my mother's arm, [§ III (2) (a) (i)] or from her head. [§ III (2) (a) (ii)] I first heard of them when Monsue announced them at my April 4 detention hearing.

  8. Hughes claimed I panicked and wanted to make sure my mother "WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO TELL ON [me]." 386

    An attacker afraid of being identified does not call paramedics. He doesn't try first aid. He doesn't call his father. He leaves. Between my 11:26 a.m. call to paramedics and their 11:34 arrival, I had eight minutes alone in the house with my mother. If silencing her had been the motive, that was the moment. Better still, do nothing: leave, return to my job search in Panorama City, walk away clean. The neighbors heard nothing unusual, including my arrival. 460 Instead I tried first aid, called my father, and searched the house for whoever had done it.

  9. Hughes told the jury I confessed because the crime had "REALLY GOT HIS CONSCIENCE ABOUT WHAT HE DID, STARTED EATING HIM UP A LITTLE BIT. SO HE BROKE DOWN AND RAN HIS CASE DOWN TO ME." 388

    He also told the jury I was so cold I "GAVE HIM THE CHILLS." 392 Hughes wanted both: the crisis of conscience that explained how the confession came out, and the icy remorselessness that made it monstrous. He cannot have both. The snitch had no trouble tailoring the performance to whichever beat the prosecution needed next.

  10. Hughes was willing to testify that his fellow snitches Michael Dowtu and Sherman Wallace were lying about my confessing to them. 404

    How could Hughes possibly know — if I had really confessed to him? Only one way: if he had written the confession himself, compared notes with the other two, and cut them out of the payoff to become the State's star snitch. Which is exactly what he did. If his motive had been moral, 405 a thousand corroborating voices would have helped, not hurt. Only a man who knows the script knows the other actors are reciting wrong.

  11. Hughes told Monsue that none of the snitches around me had been working me at all: "NONE OF US [snitches] WAS EVEN TALKING TO HIM AND JUST WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM." 406

    If “none of us was even talking to him,” the single half-hour conversation Hughes claims produced my confession 338 didn't happen. The warm letters — predicting my freedom, 397, 398 telling me I had a good heart 399 — flatly contradict “wanting nothing to do with him.” [Cf. § V (1)] And Hughes told Monsue he could tell Dowtu was lying by the way Dowtu had approached him in the showers 407 — an approach that, per Hughes here, never happened. [Cf. § V (10)] Hughes also admitted he had told my father he knew I was innocent 404, 411 and that he would testify to that. He was in fact the one who first told my father and me about Dowtu's and Wallace's lies. 410 A man not talking to me did all of that.

  12. Hughes offered another reason he knew Dowtu and Wallace were lying: "THEY DIDN'T KNOW HIM." 412 No killer, Hughes told the jury, would pick an absolute stranger as his confessor — let alone in the first conversation they ever had.

    Which is exactly what he claimed I had done with him. Confessed in our first conversation, 339 before we knew each other's names, 413 in under thirty minutes. 340 Hughes's own rule, applied to Hughes.

  13. Hughes told the jury my father had called him out for a jail visit and "PLAYS THE OLD PERRY MASON PART," 414 supposedly saying, "HE DID, BUT THEY CAN'T PROVE IT" from "AN ATTORNEY'S POINT OF VIEW," and adding "SHIT, MAN, WHAT KIND OF FAMILY IS THIS[?]" 416

    In 1989, Hughes told an investigator my father had hired that after he saw my father at trial, "HE KNEW RIGHT THEN AND THERE THAT ALL OF THE THINGS THAT [Bruce] SAID ABOUT HIS PARENTS WERE DEFINITELY NOT TRUE." 418 Hughes also conceded he had told my father at that same jail visit 404, 411 that he would testify Dowtu and Wallace were lying. My father confirmed Hughes told him he knew I was innocent. 409

    A glimpse across a courtroom does not erase the contempt Hughes pretended to feel for “the Perry Mason father.” The two 1983 jail visits would have done so far more thoroughly. 419 And Hughes had no business attending those visits at all, if he genuinely believed I had confessed to him.

  14. Hughes told the jury I had a roommate; that we were "LIVING IT UP" 420 on PCP 423 heavily as of March 10; 421 and that I had murdered my mother trying to get money for more.

    Every piece of that is false. Mike Ryan, the only roommate I ever had, had moved out several months before my mother's murder. 422 I have never used PCP. My father had given me ten dollars the night before. 520 Minutes before finding my mother, I had “squandered” money on nuts and washers 198 still sitting in my car 199 alongside the Builder's Emporium bag on the driveway. When I needed money I asked my father, the breadwinner — not my mother. 520

  15. Hughes claimed to be a Born-Again Christian 425 who approached me only to “minister” 426 — with no ulterior motive 429 — because I looked frail and upset 337 and had a “suicidal juvenile” tag on my cell door. 427

    On the stand, this supposed Christian could not produce a single Bible scripture 428 from the very faith he claimed had moved him to “serve” 429 a juvenile stranger in the snitch tank. All he could manage was “Jesus is the savior.” Hughes's wife was the Christian. Her attempts to bring him along supplied the vocabulary.

  16. The same supposed Christian took the Lord's name in vain on the witness stand. 430 Like a world-class sinner. Like a world-class liar.
  17. Hughes first told police he had heard I was a suicidal juvenile “or something.” 431 Three months later he testified he had actually seen the tag on my cell door. 432

    I never carried a “suicidal” designation at the county jail. I had been on one-on-one status 433 at Sylmar Juvenile Hall — and Detective Monsue was the only link between Sylmar (where he visited me on April Fool's Day and I told him about Mike Ryan) 460A and the county jail (where he later gave Hughes his first taped interview on July 6). Hughes's first session with Van Nuys police, two weeks earlier, was neither taped nor transcribed. The detail that “upgraded” between Hughes's two accounts is exactly the detail Monsue could have fed him.

  18. Hughes explained that he had to be careful with me because he didn't want to "BLOW MY COVER, BECAUSE WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA." 435

    “Cover.” Hughes's own word. An undercover State agent — cultivating confessions in the highest-stakes cases prosecutors carry, and counting on a sentence reduction for the service. I was Hughes's fifth homicide or attempted-homicide defendant. The previous four: (1) Richard James Crowell, Orange County Case No. C-47061; (2) Ernest Owen McCoy, L.A. County Case No. A561270; (3) Bernard Dean Milberger, same case number as McCoy, separate trial; and (4) the defendant in the Beverly Hills “police shooting” case Hughes's information reportedly cracked. A serial liar with a serial-State-customer.

  19. Hughes told the jury: "IT'S NOT MY STYLE TO GET UP THERE ON THE STAND AND LIE, BUT * THIS IS SOME PRETTY HEAVY SHIT, WHEN IT COMES TO A MURDER CASE." 436

    Not his style — but. How heavy does something have to be before Hughes will lie about it? His 1993 bankruptcy was heavy enough: he hid assets and was caught. 673 His own freedom was heavy enough; 436A he openly admitted he would snitch for it once his five-year sentence came down. 330 He lies for money. He lies for freedom. He lied for the State.

    * Two transcripts of the July 6 interview exist in the murder book. The version with page numbers at the top — the apparent 'police' version — omits the word "BUT." For the same reasons Monsue's hand-transcription of my interrogation is suspect, that secondary transcript should be read with caution [Cf. § IV (4) (f)]. The conversation at that point concerned Dowtu and Wallace's lying, so Hughes may have been asserting his difference from them — a difference that did not exist.
  20. Hughes said he was careful in approaching me, not wanting to seem as if he were questioning me: "WHEN THEY SAY HE WAS PRETTY SMART." 437

    Who is “they”? Hughes stated unequivocally that I was the first person he had spoken to about my case. 438 So “they” can only be the police. The same police whose hand is everywhere else around this snitching: my unauthorized transfer from juvenile hall into the adult county jail days after a court ordered against it; Detective Landgren's un-taped, un-transcribed visit with Hughes two weeks before the July 6 interview; 459 my placement in the 7000 Module in direct contact with Hughes. That's not coincidence. That's coordination. [Cf. § VI. "JAIL HOUSE INFORMANTS: POLICE COMPLICITY"]

    Again, the page-numbered 'police' transcript reads "LIKE I SAID, HE WAS PRETTY SMART," and Hughes had earlier referenced my intelligence. For the same reasons as the Monsue hand-transcription [Cf. § IV (4) (f)], that alternate transcript is probably not representative of what Hughes actually said.
  21. In the July 6 interview, Hughes incorrectly called the exercise bar a "BOWL WORKER." 439 Three months later he was calling it, correctly, a "BULL WORKER." 440 Someone corrected him. Detective Landgren's un-taped, un-transcribed visit with Hughes two weeks before the very first taped interview 459 is exactly when that correction could have been delivered.
    Once again, the 'police' transcript records the word properly as "BULL WORKER." For the same reasons, that transcription may not be accurate.
  22. Hughes claimed the stabbing happened all at once — "WHAM" 441 — near the outset of the attack. 442

    The body says otherwise. The defensive slashes appear only on my right-handed 359 mother's left hand, 360 meaning the exercise bar that broke her right arm 357 had already done its work before the knives came out. The knives came after the bar, not at the outset. [Cf. § V (3) (a)] And the pinpoint hesitation marks near her stab wounds mean she was not upright when the knives were used. [Cf. § V (3) (b)] “Wham” is good theater. It is not what happened.

  23. Hughes claimed I committed the murder, then staged the scene — rigging the kitchen window after the attack, hands covered in my mother's blood. 187

    No blood on the window panes. None on the sill. None on the screen. None on the red-handled pliers. 298 Hughes's scenario requires me to have bloodied my hands; washed them; dried them; disassembled a louvered window; carried the panes out and laid them on the east walkway; somehow re-bloodied them; and done all of it in roughly ten minutes, before police arrived — without leaving a trace on a single doorknob along the way. [Cf. § IV (4) (1)] That is not a scenario. That is a fantasy.

  24. Hughes first said he had seen Dowtu and Wallace approach me in the shower fishing for information. 446

    He later testified to a very different sequence: the pair had instead noticed him talking with me, after which Dowtu approached him with a proposition to combine and jointly fabricate testimony. 447 Truth has one advantage Hughes couldn't use. It's easier to recall what actually happened than to consistently remember a lie.

  25. Hughes said he had ministered to me out of pure compassion for someone who looked frail and upset, 337 and never asked me for anything in return. 448

    Confronted with his own letters, Hughes admitted he had asked me for money, candy, razors, and other items. 449 So much for nothing in return.

  26. Before testifying, Hughes was seen in the hallway outside the courtroom reading a thick sheaf of papers. He said it was the transcript of his July 6 interview, 452 and that he had had about ten days to review it.

    You don't memorize what happened. You memorize what you're saying happened.

  27. Hughes reported, with certainty, that I had called my father first that morning and the paramedics second. 453

    Backwards. Paramedics: 11:26 a.m. 454 My father: 11:29. 455 A man who'd actually heard my confession would have heard which call came first.

Footnotes

54.
LAPD Follow-Up Investigation, authored by LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927)
Page 6
"I/O OBSERVED [Bruce's] CLOTHES AND NOTED THAT THERE DIDN'T APPEAR TO BE ANY BLOOD STAINS ON THE SHIRT, T SHIRT OR PANTS."
55.
Testimony of LAPD officer Douglas Johnson (No.12878) after standing guard directly over me as I sat beneath him in the rear of the police car parked at the curb
Q:"DID YOU OBSERVE ANY BLOOD ON BRUCE?"
A:"NO."
66.
Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927), Preliminary Hearing. December 7, 1983
Page 260
Q:"DID YOU OBSERVE ANY [blood] ON HIS SHOES?"
A:"NO, NOT AT THAT TIME."
Q:"SO THEN WOULD I BE CORRECT IN STATING THAT WHEN YOU HAD BRUCE GET OUT OF THE POLICE VEHICLE AND YOU BROUGHT HIM TO THE INTERVIEW ROOM AND YOU WERE LOOKING AT HIM, THERE WAS NO VISIBLE BLOOD THAT YOU COULD SEE BY LOOKING AT HIM?"
A:"NO LARGE SPOT OR DISCOLORATION THAT DREW MY ATTENTION TO IT; NO."
70.

Summarizing Linhart's findings [Notes #53, 57, 61, 62, 63], he found: On my flannel shirt, six droplets; On my right Pacer tennis shoe, one droplet approximately 1 x 2 millimeters in diameter; and on the left Pacer tennis shoe, one droplet approximately 2 x 3 millimeters.

187.
LAPD Follow-Up Investigation
Page 3 - Just prior to touching all of the doors and windows with their bare hands, "DETECTIVES OBSERVED THE SUBJECT IN THE BACK SEAT OF A PATROL UNIT. HE APPEARED TO BE HIGHLY EXCITED AS HE WAS TALKING VERY LOUDLY BUT WAS NOT DIRECTING HIS CONVERSATION TO ANYBODY IN PARTICULAR. DETECTIVES OBSERVED THATSUBJECT HAD WHAT APPEARED TO BE DRY BLOOD ON BOTH HANDS. DETECTIVES FURTHER NOTED THAT HIS SHIRT WAS TORN IN SEVERAL PLACES."
198.
Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927)
Trial
November 5, 1985 – Page 481
Q:"I THINK AT SOME POINT IN TIME BRUCE TOLD YOU THAT HE BOUGHT A PACKAGE OF WASHERS OR SOMETHING FOR HIS SHOCKS BEFORE HE CAME HOME ON MARCH 10TH TO HIS PARENTS' HOUSE ON MARCH 10, 1983. DO YOU RECALL THAT?"
A:"YES, WE HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME WASHERS THAT HE HAD PURCHASED."
199.
Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927)
Dennis H./William M. Juvenile Detention Hearing
April 4, 1983 – Page 77
Q:"DID YOU SEE ANY ... KIND OF PARTS, NUTS OR BOLTS, WASHERS IN THE AREA OF THE MUSTANG?"
A:"YES, THERE WERE SOME INSIDE." ...
Q:"WHERE WERE THEY LOCATED?"
A:"THEY WERE LAYING ON THE CONSOLE BETWEEN THE FRONT SEATS"
200.
Testimony of LAFD paramedic Jay Lovato, that my clothing appeared generally worn, though apparently not as if torn in an altercation. Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 101
Q:"DO YOU RECALL ANYTHING ABOUT THE CONDITION OF HIS CLOTHES?"
A:"THEY WERE KIND OF TATTERED, LOOKED WORN, WORN LOOKING."

I put on these worn out clothes for the repair precisely because of their poor condition.

201.
THE BROWN CORDUROY PANTS:
Trial
November 29, 1984 – Page 386, Linhart testifies that stains on the front of the pants are not blood; and Trial, November 12, 1985 – Page 743, A variety of rather dark stains present on the pant legs, testing negative for blood. Some of these have considerable texture. One, near the tag "15" on the left knee, is almost black. [An apt description of automotive grease.] Additional stains on the back of the pants also tested negative for blood.
THE RIGHT 'PACER' TENNIS SHOE:
And:
Testimony of State blood expert Ronald R. Linhart, Trial, November 29, 1984, page 390, A: "MOST OF WHAT YOU SEE IS NOT BLOOD." [emphasis added]; Id. at page 389-390, 440, All stains on the simulated leather are negative for blood; Trial, November 12, 1985, page 734-735, Various large stains on the heel and toe were found not to be blood; Trial, November 29, 1984, Only one location on the shoe
tested positive for blood, measuring approximately 1 x 2 mm.
THE LEFT 'PACER' TENNIS SHOE:
And:
Trial
December 3, 1984 – Page 447; and Trial, November 12, 1985 – Page 737, Stains on the leather-like surface at toe and heel tested negative for blood;
THE PLAID SHIRT:
And:
Trial
November 29, 1984 – Page 385, Some stains on shirt tested negative for blood.
THE YELLOW T-SHIRT:
And:
Trial
December 3, 1984 – Page 448, None of the stains observed and tested were blood; Linhart detected no blood on the shirt.
224.
Testimony of LAPD officer George Prado (No. 17603)
Trial
November 5, 1984 – Page 2
A:"HE WAS QUITE HYSTERICAL...";
and:
Testimony of LAPD officer Douglas R. Johnson (No. 12878)
Trial (On Motion)
November 13, 1984 – Page 148
A:"...HE WAS VERY EMOTIONAL. HYSTERICAL...";
and:
Trial, November 29, 1984, page 327
Q"SO WOULD YOU DESCRIBE HIS EMOTIONAL CONDITION AT THAT TIME?" A: "EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL; EXTREMELY HYSTERICAL."
277.
Letter from Robert Felt, M.D., the Lisker family physician
On practice letterhead
May 26, 1998
"This letter is to verify that on January 14, 1983 at an office visit, Mr. Lisker's weight was 97 pounds."

Three months before Hughes ran his jailhouse-Christian-conversion con on me in a County Jail cell, I weighed 97 pounds. Hughes was a former combat Marine and a career criminal whose entire adult life had been spent cycling through jails and prisons. He told a jury he had been afraid of me. Afraid of a 97-pound teenager. The fear was theater. The conversion was a fiction. Both were sold to a credulous prosecution in exchange for a discount on the sentence his record had earned many times over. He wasn't afraid. He was working a con. The State bought it.

Letter on physician's letterhead from Dr. Robert Felt, the Lisker family doctor, dated May 26, 1998, verifying from his medical records that Bruce Lisker weighed 97 pounds at an office visit on January 14, 1983.
Dr. Robert Felt, the Lisker family physician, on his own letterhead, drawing on his contemporaneous medical chart: Bruce weighed 97 pounds on January 14, 1983. Fifty-five days before the arrest. Roughly three months before Hughes began telling his jailhouse story about the teenager he claimed to fear.
Sworn declaration of Dr. Robert Felt, M.D., executed September 14, 2000 under penalty of perjury under the laws of the State of California, on attorney Frederick I. Marr's letterhead, attaching the May 1998 letter as Exhibit 1 and substantiating from his medical records that Bruce Lisker weighed 97 pounds on January 14, 1983.
Two years later, the same fact wrapped in legal armor — Dr. Felt's formal declaration of September 14, 2000, sworn under penalty of perjury, attaching the 1998 letter as Exhibit 1. Bulletproof. And never put to the jury that took Hughes at his word.
298.
Trial, November 12, 1985, page 766-767
Per State stipulation, blood was found on the following evidence:
1. On the blade and handle of the narrow-blade search knife (People's Exhibit 7). The quantity was insufficient for further testing; 2. On the handle of the wide-blade search knife (People's Exhibit 6). The blade tested negative for blood; 3. On the shoes (People's Exhibits 11-A and 11-B), six areas of blood: five greater than 0.5 cm in diameter, and one less than 0.2 cm in size; 4. On the plaid shirt (People's Exhibit 12) there were various stains testing positive for blood. Four were larger than 0.5 cm in size, and four were less than 0.2 cm in size, and; 5. On the corduroy pants (People's Exhibit 14) there were various stains testing positive for the presence of blood.
323.

Located at 441 Bauchet Street, in Los Angeles.

324.

Born March 7, 1954 as Robert Donald Campeau, his surname was changed at approximately age five to that of his step-father, Hughes.

325.

This is Hughes's official criminal record as of October 6, 1983 — the same day he took the stand at my preliminary hearing and admitted he was already on his third snitch case. Prepared at Deuel Vocational Institution (Tracy State Prison) by an Office Services Supervisor and sent to Detective Monsue at his request. It documents fourteen years of arrests, plea deals, and prison sentences, listed in reverse chronological order. Dates and charges are highlighted in bold; handed-down sentences are underlined.

Read it once. Then ask why a Los Angeles prosecutor put a man with this history on the witness stand as a credible source in a murder case:

1.On June 8, 1981 he is arrested by Santa Ana police for: 459 Penal Code (PC) Burglary; 484-487.1 PC Grand Theft Property; 484-487.3 PC Grand Theft Misc./Auto; 496 PC Receiving Stolen Property; 459 PC Arson*; 12021 PC Felon Addict in Possession of a Firearm; and 10851 Vehicle Code (VC) Taking Automobile Without Owner's Consent;

* PC 459 is Burglary, not Arson — the rap sheet has it mislabeled. This list is reproduced verbatim, errors included.

2.On June 4, 1981 he is arrested by Huntington Beach police for: 496.1 PC Possession of Stolen Property; 487/3 PC Auto Theft (2 Counts); 12021 PC Illegal Possession of a Firearm; 240 PC Assault; and 245(a) PC Assault With a Deadly Weapon;

3.On March 3, 1980 he is charged with 4350(b) PC Prison Escape Without Force;

4.On March 22, 1978 he is sentenced to 4 years, 8 months in State Prison for 664 211 PC Attempted Robbery With 12022 PC Use of a Firearm and 664 211 PC Attempted Robbery;

5.On November 29, 1977 he is arrested by Santa Ana police on a Bench Warrant (#76 CMO 6735) issued on October 8, 1977 for 11550 Health & Safety Code (HSC) Use or Under the Influence of a Controlled Substance;

6.On November 21, 1977 he is arrested by Santa Ana police for 211 PC Robbery (after being detained by Anaheim police), and on March 2, 1978 a 245 PC Robbery charge is dismissed when he PLEADS GUILTY TO TWO COUNTS OF 211 PC ROBBERY. He is sentenced to an unspecified term in State Prison;

7.On October 18, 1977 he is arrested by Santa Ana police for 11550 HSC Use or Under the Influence of a Controlled Substance (after being detained by Westminster police);

8.On October 8, 1977 he is arrested by South Santa Ana police for: 11550 HSC Use or Under the Influence of a Controlled Substance; 488 PC Violation of Probation; 11550 HSC Violation of Probation; and 23105(a) VC Misdemeanor Drunk Driving Under the Influence of Drugs on the Highway;

9.On October 3, 1977 he is arrested by South Santa Ana police, and on October 11, 1977 he PLEADS GUILTY TO 11550 HSC USE OR UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE and on a Warrant for 23103 VC Reckless Driving, and is sentenced to 11 months in jail and 36 months probation;

10.On June 25, 1977 he is arrested by Santa Ana police for 488 PC;

11.On May 14, 1977 he is arrested by South Santa Ana police for 23102(a) VC Driving Under the Influence (Drugs) and is held for the Central Orange County Court;

12.On April 28, 1977 he is arrested by South Santa Ana police, and is either FOUND OR PLEADS GUILTY TO 487 PC GRAND THEFT, and is sentenced to 30 days in jail and 12 months of probation;

13.On April 20, 1977 he is arrested by South Santa Ana police for 11550 HSC Use or Under the Influence of a Controlled Substance, and on June 24, 1977 he PLEADS GUILTY TO 231054 VC and is sentenced to 24 months probation;

14.On February 24, 1977 he is arrested by South Santa Ana police for 459 PC Residential Burglary and is held for Costa Mesa police;

15.On September 19, 1976 he is arrested by South Santa Ana police for 11550 HSC Use or Under the Influence of a Controlled Substance and 484-488 PC. On October 29, 1976 he PLEADS GUILTY TO 11550 HSC USE OR UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE and is sentenced to 90 days in jail and 36 months suspended sentence;

16.On July 4, 1974 he is arrested by South Los Angeles police for 11550 HSC Use or Under the Influence of a Controlled Substance;

17.On September 9, 1970 he is arrested by Long Beach police for 211 PC Strong-Arm Robbery; 487.3 PC Grand Theft Purse; and Leading a Lewd and Dissolute Life and is referred to the Juvenile Justice Bureau;

18.On November 11, 1969 he is arrested by Los Angeles police for 602 Welfare & Institutions Code (WIC) 10851 VC and is released to his parents;

19.On July 17, 1969 he is arrested by Los Angeles police for 602 WIC 10851 VC and is released to his parents;

20.On March 21, 1969 he is arrested by Los Angeles police for 602 WIC 10851 VC (Delinquent), is counseled and released to his parents.

A note on terminology and fairness: an entry on a rap sheet is a legal arrest, not a conviction. An arrest records an encounter with police — on the street, on a warrant, or in custody already — not a finding of guilt. A few entries here even reflect old warrants discovered while Hughes was already in custody and logged in that moment as a fresh “arrest.” The fairness only cuts so far, though: convictions in the list above are marked by their underlined sentences.

Look at what's left after the caveats. A serial criminal — assault, armed robbery, burglary, theft, narcotics, weapons, prison escape — running fourteen years deep and unbroken when he sat down across from a 17-year-old in jail and started talking about Jesus. By April 1983 Hughes had already pled guilty to multiple counts of robbery, taken a four-year, eight-month sentence for attempted armed robbery, broken out of state custody, and been arrested by police in five different cities. He took every plea deal offered and was back in court before the ink dried. Hughes wasn't a man so much as a habit — a habit of taking what wasn't his and lying his way out when caught. Selling a teenager's life to shave nine months off his sentence was just the most expensive thing he ever stole.

This is the witness on whose word the State of California asked twelve jurors to put me away for the rest of my natural life.

325A.

In the rap sheet above, dates and charges are shown in bold; underlined sentences mark the convictions.

327.

Before Hughes ever met me, he was already a practiced repeat operator. He had testified, or agreed to testify, as an informant in at least two prior murder prosecutions: People v. Richard Crowell (Orange County Superior Court Case No. C-47061; prosecuted by DDA Patti Minoukian, investigated by DA Investigator Wayne Harver) and People v. Bernard Milberger (Los Angeles County Superior Court Case No. A561270; prosecuted by DDA Greg Denton, investigated by Sheriff's Homicide Sergeant Frank Salerno and Detective Peter Finnegan). He admitted as much, on the stand, in my own preliminary hearing:

Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 171
A:"THIS IS THE THIRD CASE I'M TESTIFYING ON."

By the time Hughes was done he had delivered his informant services against five homicide or attempted-homicide defendants: Crowell; both defendants in the Milberger case; a defendant in a Beverly Hills police-shooting case (Hughes's only attempted-murder case); and me.

He testified in all of them except the Beverly Hills case. Five cases. Five times a prosecutor decided a serial liar was their best shot.

330.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 691
Q:"WOULD I BE CORRECT IN STATING THAT ALL THE TIME YOU WERE IN JAIL AFTER THE IMPOSITION OF THE FIVE-YEAR SENTENCE, YOU ATTEMPTED TO DO THINGS TO GET A PERSONAL GAIN AND BENEFIT AND EARLY RELEASE?"
A:"YES."
Q:"AND YOU DID, IN FACT, GET AN EARLY RELEASE?"
A:"YES."
331.
Statement of The Court:
Hon. Judge Judith Meisels Ashmann
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 258
"IT'S ALL APPARENTLY PART OF AN ONGOING ATTEMPT BY MR. HUGHES TO HAVE HIS SENTENCE REDUCED IN SOME WAY."
334.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 237
Q:"DID YOU KNOW WHETHER OR NOT HE WAS A JUVENILE?"
A:"YES, I DID."
Q:"SO YOU KNEW HE WAS A JUVENILE?"
A:"YES, SIR.";
and:
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 594 Q: "YOU KNEW HE WAS A JUVENILE?" A: "YES.";
and:
consider Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 30-31
"ACCORDING TO ONE DEFENSE ATTORNEY, IT IS PARTICULARLY PERILOUS TO PLACE A` JUVENILE, WHO WILL BE TRIED AS AN ADULT, WITH ADULTS, BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY OF THE ADULTS TO PREY ON THE NAIVETE OF THE JUVENILE ... SUCH INMATES ARE AN ESPECIALLY ENTICING OPPORTUNITY TO A WILY INFORMANT -- WHO MIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, OFFER TO ASSIST THE DEFENDANT IN HIS CASE AND THEREBY ELICIT THE DEFENDANT'S KNOWLEDGE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT'S VERSION OF THE CRIME."
335.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 150
Q:"WHEN YOU TALKED WITH HIM THE FIRST TIME, WHY DID YOU START THE CONVERSATION WITH HIM?"
A:"WHEN THEY LET ME OUT FOR A SHOWER, HE HAD -- THEY HAD A TAG, RED TAG, ON HIS DOOR THAT SAID 'SUICIDAL JUVENILE,' AND HE WAS KIND--";
and:
continuing at page 211
Q:"DID YOU START THE CONVERSATION WITH MR. BRUCE LISKER OR DID HE COME TO YOU AND START TALKING TO YOU?"
A:"I BELIEVE I STARTED THE CONVERSATION.";
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 234
Q:"MR. HUGHES--"
A:"YES."
Q:"--DO YOU RECALL WHAT THE FIRST CONVERSATION WAS THAT MR. LISKER HAD WITH YOU?"
A:"YES."
Q:"ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE CONVERSATION THAT YOU INITIATED?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 549
A:"I INITIALLY STARTED TALKING TO MR. LISKER, I BELIEVE; TO BRUCE."
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 210
Q:"DID YOU EVER TELL HIM YOU WERE BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN?"
A:"YES, I DID."
Q:"DID YOU TRY TO GET CLOSE WITH HIM THROUGH YOUR RELIGIOUS CONVERSATION?"
A:"YES."
And:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 228-229
Q:"GOING FROM THE BEGINNING OF YOUR CONVERSATION, MR. HUGHES, WHAT DID YOU RESPOND?"
A:"I BELIEVE I ASKED HIM IF HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT; WHY HE WAS IN PRISON.";
and:
Id. at page 229
Q:"DID YOU SAY WHILE HE WAS DEPRESSED?"
A:"I SAID HE WAS DEPRESSED OR BUMMED-OUT."
Q:"AND YOU ASKED IF HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT; IS THAT RIGHT?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Id. at page 236
Q:"DID YOU ASK HIM WHAT HE WAS IN THERE FOR?" A" "YES."
Q:"AND THEN HE TOLD YOU WHAT HE WAS IN THERE FOR?"
A:"YES,";
and:
Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 152
Q:"ALL RIGHT. TELL US TO THE BEST OF YOUR RECOLLECTION WHAT THE [very first] CONVERSATION CONSISTED OF BETWEEN YOU AND HE."
A:"IT WAS ABOUT WHAT HE WAS. ARRESTED FOR, WHAT HE WAS IN JAIL FOR.";
and:
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 594
Q:"DID YOU ASK BRUCE WHAT HE WAS IN THERE FOR?"
A:"I BELIEVE I DID."
Q:"THAT IS A 'YES'?"
A:"YES. I AM NOT POSITIVE. I WOULD SAY, 'YES."'
336.

[Footnote 336 is not present in the source Footnotes - 1-719.docx. Bruce — please add the citation here.]

337.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 237
Q:"DID HE APPEAR FRAIL AND UPSET AND WEAK?"
A:"YES."
Q:"VERY SUSCEPTIBLE TO YOUR CONVERSATION ABOUT GOD?"
A:"YES."
338.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes - concerning our very first conversation
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 579-580
Q:"ACCORDING TO DIRECT EXAMINATION, ACCORDING TO 'WHAT YOU RECALL, BRUCE DID NOT TELL YOU HE WAS BRUCE LISKER EITHER; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"CORRECT."
Q:"AND AT THAT TIME YOU GUYS WERE BOTH STRANGERS TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE YOU HAD NEVER MET EACH OTHER PRIOR TO THAT?"
A:"RIGHT."
339.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 579
Q:"THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT YOU MET HIM THOUGH?"
A:"YES."
Q:"THAT IS WHAT YOU TESTIFIED TO, RIGHT?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 238-239
Q:"WHAT WAS -- THESE LETTERS [you wrote to Bruce concerning God], DID THEY OCCUR PRIOR TO YOUR ORIGINAL CONVERSATION WITH BRUCE CONCERNING THIS KILLING?"
A:"NO. PARDON ME? COULD YOU--"
Q:"SURE. THESE LETTERS THAT YOU PASSED TO BRUCE, DID YOU WRITE ANY OF THESE LETTERS TO HIM CONCERNING GOD PRIOR TO YOUR CONVERSATION CONCERNING THE KILLING."
A:"NO. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THAT'S WHEN I FIRST MET HIM SO I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY REASON TO WRITE HIM A LETTER. I DIDN'T KNOW HIM.";
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Pages 578-579, 581

Hughes without question claims the supposed confession happened during our first conversation.

340.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 578
Q:"THE CONVERSATION WAS WHAT? ABOUT FIVE MINUTES OR SO?"
A:"I BELIEVE IT WAS LONGER THAN THAT. IT WAS ABOUT -- I COULDN'T GIVE YOU AN EXACT TIME."
Q:"COULD YOU GIVE MEAN APPROXIMATION?"
A:"HALF HOUR."
341.
Observation of Trial Court Judge, Honorable Richard Kolostian, regarding the snitch Robert Hughes
Trial
November 28, 1984 – Page 216-217
"...WE ALL KNOW REPRESENTING CLIENTS THAT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE THAT GET IN TROUBLE, AND THEN THEY KNOW THE WAY TO GET OUT OF TROUBLE IS TO TRY TO GET SOME INFORMATION SO THEY CAN TESTIFY AND MAKE A DEAL IN THEIR CASE. I MEAN THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN, MR. HUGHES, OBVIOUSLY WAS LOOKING. I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY QUESTION. HE WAS TRYING TO GET INFORMATION..."
342.
Letter to Orange County Superior Court Judge Donald A. McCartin
by R.M. Rees, Superintendent, Deuel Vocational Institution [Tracy Prison]
August 3, 1983
"FOLLOWING A CAREFUL EVALUATION OF THIS CASE, WE RECOMMEND THAT NO CHANGE BE MADE IN THE CURRENT SENTENCE AND COMMITMENT OF ROBERT DONALD HUGHES TO THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS"
and, later:
Diagnostic Study and Evaluation by the California Department of Corrections Under Provisions of Penal Code 1170 (d)
Report dated August 3, 1983
II. OFFENSE"ON APRIL 26, 1981, HUNTINGTON BEACH POLICE RECORDS INDICATE HUGHES ENTERED A RESIDENCE AT HUNTINGTON BEACH BELONGING TO ██████████ BY BREAKING A WINDOW. A STEREO AND MISCELLANEOUS PROPERTY WAS TAKEN.

ON APRIL 30, 1981, HUGHES TOOK A VOLKSWAGON AUTOMOBILE BELONGING TO ██████████ WITHOUT HER PERMISSION.

ON MAY 1, 1981, HUGHES SOLD THE VICTIM'S RING AT A JEWELRY STORE IN HUNTINGTON BEACH, CALIFORNIA.

ON MAY 25, 1981, HUGHES CONTACTED A JEWELRY STORE IN NEWPORT BEACH AND ATTEMPTED TO SELL SOME JEWELRY. THE MAN AT THE JEWELRY STORE REFUSED TO PURCHASE THE JEWELRY. HUGHES PULLED A STEEL REVOLVER FROM HIS PERSON AND STARTED HITTING THE VICTIM IN THE HEAD. HUGHES LATER ADMITTED THAT THE GUN HAD BEEN STOLEN IN A BURGLARY IN THE ANAHEIM HILLS SECTION OF ORANGE COUNTY.

ON MAY 26, 1981, HUGHES TOOK A PARKED TRUCK IN COSTA MESA, CALIFORNIA. HUGHES WAS SEEN LEAVING A RESIDENCE IN ORANGE COUNTY THAT HAD BEEN BURGLARIZED AND DRIVING OFF IN THE TRUCK THAT HE HAD STOLEN. HUGHES WAS CAUGHT ON JUNE 4, 1981, DRIVING THE STOLEN TRUCK IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY.

AT APPROXIMATELY 7:30 A.M., DEPUTIES OF THE LOS ANGELES SHERIFF'S OFFICE RECEIVED A RADIO CALL WHILE ON ROUTINE PATROL TO CONTACT DETECTIVE ██████████ OF THE HUNTINGTON BEACH POLICE DEPARTMENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF FLOWER STREET AND ARDMORE AVENUE IN THE CITY OF BELLFLOWER. WHILE IN ROUTE, THEY WERE STOPPED BY OFFICER ██████████ WHO SAID HE HAD BEEN FOLLOWING HUGHES AND HIS COMPANION, WHO WERE DRIVING THE STOLEN VEHICLE. THE DEPUTIES ATTEMPTED TO EFFECT A TRAFFIC STOP AT WHICH TIME THE STOLEN VEHICLE TURNED INTO A PARKING LOT. THE VEHICLE WAS BEING DRIVEN BY HUGHES AND HE ACCELERATED TO A HIGH RATE OF SPEED, IN EXCESS OF 60 MILES PER HOUR. IT WENT OVER THE CURB INTO THE DRIVEWAY ON THE WEST SIDE OF ROMONA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AND NEARLY STRUCK FIVE CHILDREN, WHO IMMEDIATELY SCATTERED. THE VEHICLE THEN DROVE EASTBOUND BEHIND SEVERAL CLASSROOMS AND ABRUPTLY STOPPED, AT WHICH TIME HUGHES AND HIS COMPANION FLED. THE COMPANION, ██████████, WAS IMMEDIATELY APPREHENDED AND STATED THAT HUGHES WAS ARMED AND DANGEROUS.

AT APPROXIMATELY 9:10 A.M. HUGHES WAS FOUND ATTEMPTING TO HIDE UNDER SOME BUSHES OUTSIDE THE RESIDENCE AT ██████████ STREET, BELLFLOWER, CALIFORNIA. HE WAS IMMEDIATELY APPREHENDED. HUGHES' COMPANION HAD BEEN CONTACTED BY OFFICER ██████████ AND WAS GIVEN PERMISSION TO SEARCH HIS RESIDENCE. CONTACT WITH ██████████ AT THIS RESIDENCE ALSO RESULTED IN HER PERMISSION TO SEARCH THE RESIDENCE. OFFICER ██████████ FOUND A DUFFLE BAG IN THE LIVING ROOM, BELONGING TO HUGHES, WHICH CONTAINED A .22 CALIBER AUTOMATIC TARGET PISTOL WHICH HAD BEEN STOLEN IN A PREVIOUS BURGLARY. THAT BURGLARY WAS COMMITTED AT THE RESIDENCE OF ██████████ IN THE CITY OF CERRITOS, SOME TIME BETWEEN MAY 23, 1981 AND MAY 29, 1981.

TAKEN FROM THAT BURGLARY WAS A .22 CALIBER TARGET PISTOL ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER HANDGUNS, HOLSTERS, AMMUNITION FOR THE HANDGUNS, SOME KNIVES, JEWELRY AND MISCELLANEOUS SPORTING BAGS.

HUGHES BEGAN HIS CRIMINAL JUSTICE INVOLVEMENT IN 1969 WITH A WELFARE AND INSTITUTIONS CODE DELINQUENCY OF A JUVENILE. HIS HISTORY THEN PROGRESSED WITH MULTIPLE ARRESTS FOR DRUGS AND AN ARMED ROBBERY.

HE WAS SUBSEQUENTLY COMMITTED IN 1978 TO THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS FOR ATTEMPTED ROBBERY WITH THE USE OF A FIREARM FOR WHICH HE RECEIVED FOUR YEARS AND EIGHT MONTHS.

HE IS PRESENTLY A PAROLE VIOLATOR WITH A NEW TERM."
And:
DDA Phillip Rabichow – On his efforts to secure Hughes' early release
Trial (Offer for Stipulation)
November 13, 1984 – Page 372
By Mr. Rabichow:“... I CALLED AND WROTE TO THE SUPERINTENDENT [of the Department of Corrections] TO ASK HIM TO SEND ANOTHER 1170 (D) LETTER, WHICH THEY DID, WHICH WAS A COPY OF THEIR OLD ONE. ACTUALLY IT WAS A COPY OF THEIR OLD ONE, AGAIN RECOMMENDING NO CHANGE. I SPOKE TO JUDGE MC CARTIN AND TOLD HIM THAT HE WAS NOT BOUND TO FOLLOW THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS RECOMMENDATION."
343.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 574
Q:"SO IN THE MIDDLE OF TESTIMONY [at the Preliminary Hearing] THAT MODIFICATION REQUEST HAD BEEN DENIED?"
A:"YES, IT HAD."
and:
The following stipulation was made by DDA Phillip Rabichow concerning Hughes' first sentence-reduction effort, begun by Orange County DDA Patty Manoukian, after his informant work in a case she prosecuted:
Trial (Augmentation -- On Motion)
November 13, 1984 – Page 368
"... JUDGE MC CARTIN DOWN IN ORANGE COUNTY DENIED THE MOTION TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATION."
344.
Testimony of jailhouse informant Robert Donald Hughes concerning DDA Rabichow's attempt to successfully obtain Hughes' premature release from custody on his five-year prison sentence
Trial. November 6, 1985
Page 573
Q:"YOU WERE RELEASED FROM CUSTODY ON WHAT DATE, SIR?"
A:"DECEMBER 27TH."
Q:"1983?"
A:" '83, YES."
Q:"AND WAS THAT WITH THE HELP AND ASSISTANCE OF MR. RABICHOW?"
A:"YES."
Q:"... YOU TESTIFIED PREVIOUSLY THAT MR. RABICHOW INDICATED HE WAS GOING TO THE HEAD OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT THAT TIME ON YOUR BEHALF TO SPEAK TO ROBERT PHILABOSIAN; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"YES."
Q:"AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANTED HIM TO DO; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"YES."
345.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 682-683
Q:"DID MR. RABICHOW TELL YOU BEFORE MR. PHILABOSIAN BECAME THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY HE USED TO WORK IN THE VAN NUYS OFFICE WITH PHIL...?"
A:"I DON'T REMEMBER.";
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 573
Q:"... YOU TESTIFIED PREVIOUSLY THAT MR. RABICHOW INDICATED HE WAS GOING TO THE HEAD OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT THAT TIME ON YOUR BEHALF TO SPEAK TO ROBERT PHILABOSIAN; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 689
A:"I BELIEVE HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO MAKE A PHONE CALL."
Q:"AND THAT PHONE CALL HE WAS GOING TO MAKE, IT WAS TO ROBERT PHILABOSIAN; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"YES."
Q:"AND YOU KNEW AT THAT TIME ROBERT PHILABOSIAN WAS THE HEAD OF THE ENTIRE LOS ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"YES, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, RIGHT."
Q:"THE MAN HIMSELF?"
A:"YES."
346.
DDA Phillip Rabichow – On his efforts to secure Hughes' early release
Trial (Offer for Stipulation)
November 13, 1984 – Page 369
"... PHILABOSIAN DIDN'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING. THAT HE WAS UPSET THAT I HAD CALLED DIRECTLY INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH CHANNELS..."
346A.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 40-41
"A DEFENSE ATTORNEY RECOUNTED HIS EXPERIENCE IN A CASE WHICH INVOLVED A JAIL HOUSE INFORMANT. THE ATTORNEY'S CLIENT WAS CHARGED WITH MURDER [as I was]. AN INFORMANT CLAIMED THAT DURING A TWENTY MINUTE PERIOD [Hughes claimed thirty for me] WHEN HE WAS CONFINED WITH THE CLIENT IN A HOLDING CELL, THE CLIENT MADE A DETAILED CONFESSION, WHICH INCLUDED THE CLIENT'S MOTIVE, HOW THE MURDER OCCURRED, WHERE THE BODY WAS DUMPED, AND OTHER FACTS. [Hughes's was equally elaborate — equally invented.] ". . . THE ATTORNEY RECALLED THE PROSECUTION'S THEORY WAS INCONSISTENT WITH THE INFORMANT'S TESTIMONY REGARDING THE TYPE OF GUN USED IN THE MURDER, THE LOCATION OF THE MURDER, AND THE CLIENT'S MOTIVE. [Hughes's collapses on contact with the evidence, point for point.] "...THE ATTORNEY BELIEVES ... THAT THE INFORMANT'S TESTIMONY LIKELY INFLUENCED THE JURY'S VERDICT. THE ATTORNEY BELIEVES 'ANY TIME YOU GET ANYTHING THAT SMACKS OF A CONFESSION, WHETHER IT IS TO A POLICE OFFICER OR ... YOUR CELLMATE OR WHOEVER, THAT JURIES PLACE A VERY STRONG RELIANCE ON THAT KIND OF-STATEMENT.' "

One of a dozen cases the Grand Jury laid out. In every one, the same pattern: a brief encounter, an elaborate “confession,” details that don't match the actual crime, a jury that bought it anyway. Hughes worked from that playbook because it worked. Read the full report. The 1980s jailhouse-snitch perjury scandal in Los Angeles was not a few bad apples. It was the business model.

347.

In 1988, jailhouse informant Leslie Vernon White stopped pretending. He sat down in front of the LA County Sheriff's Department and demonstrated, step by step, how he and his fellow snitches manufactured confessions out of nothing. The scandal that demonstration cracked open was too large to ignore. A Grand Jury was empaneled. This is how they described what they were forced to investigate:

Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 1-2
A. THE INVESTIGATION."On or about October 24, 1988, a jailed informant demonstrated for the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department how he and others could obtain confidential information and then fabricate confessions of fellow prisoners. As the evidence in this investigation reveals, this was not the first notice of such a practice that officials were offered. It became, however, a significant event, followed by further public disclosures [1] and appeals for an independent investigation.

"In an effort to examine the causes of the problem internally and assess the impact upon of the criminal justice system, high-ranking District Attorney officials announced efforts to review case files and memoranda from deputies who had encountered or who had involved such informants in their cases.

"On December 15, 1988, California Attorneys for Criminal Justice and the Los Angeles Criminal Courts Bar Association filed application with the Presiding Judge of the Superior Court requesting a Grand Jury investigation into the jail house informants matter. The application further called for appointment of special counsel to advise the Grand Jury in its investigation. A supplement to the application was filed in February, 1989. Pursuant to Section 936 of the Penal Code of the State of California, the Attorney General formally appointed the first Special Counsel in May, 1989, and the second Special Counsel in December, 1989.
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"[1] From October 29, 1988, through December 17, 1988, the Los Angeles Times alone published at least 15 articles (editorials excluded in the count) on the subject of the disclosures and issues related to jail house informants. ";
and:
continued at page 2
B. THIS REPORT AND SCOPE
OF THE INVESTIGATION.
"This report of the 1989-1990 Los Angeles County Grand Jury is the result of an intensive investigation and the presentation of evidence by Special Counsel. One hundred twenty witnesses testified before the Grand Jury and 147 exhibits were introduced into evidence.

"Witnesses included jail house informants, public officials, judges, prosecutors from the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Office and the California Attorney General's Office, county and state public defenders, members of the Bar, including representatives of defense bar organizations, law enforcement officials from the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, the Los Angeles Police Department, and other police agencies within the county, custodial officers at both the local and state level, and private citizens.";
and:
continued at page 3-4
"Thousands of pages of documents were received including court transcripts, court records, jail records, internal memoranda of various governmental agencies, records and files of the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Jailhouse Informant Litigation Team, correspondence received in response to general mailings requesting information from organized bar groups, written responses from private counsel and prosecutors to requests for information from the office of the District Attorney and the office of Special Counsel. ";
and:
continued at page 4
"The investigation is believed to be the most comprehensive inquiry into this topic that has ever been conducted. Criminologists, legal scholars and others who have studied the matter extensively generally would not have had access to official proceedings wherein witnesses could be subpoenaed to appear and testify under oath to the issues in question."
348.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 10-11
"The myriad benefits and favored treatment which are potentially available to informants are compelling incentives for them to offer testimony and also a strong motivation to fabricate, when necessary, in order to provide such testimony. This premise is a basic concept to the understanding of the jail house informant phenomena. The courts have sometimes lacked adequate factual information to fully realize the potential for untrustworthiness which is inherent in such testimony because of the strong inducements to lie or shape testimony in favor of the prosecution.";
and:
continued at page 12
"Jail house informants want some benefit in return for providing testimony. The more sophisticated may attribute their willingness to testify for law enforcement to other motives, such as their repugnance toward the particular crime charged, a family member having been a victim of a similar occurrence, the lack of remorse shown by the defendant, or other explanation to account for their assistance to law enforcement. Nevertheless, in the vast majority of cases it is a benefit, real or perceived, for the informant or some third party that motivates the cooperation."
349.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 16
"THIS DISINCLINATION TO FOLLOW SOCIETAL RULES EXTENDS TO THEIR WILLINGNESS TO DEFILE AN OATH. INFORMANTS TESTIFIED BEFORE THE GRAND JURY TO REPEATED INSTANCES OF PERJURY AND PROVIDING FALSE INFORMATION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT. WITH ONE EXCEPTION, EACH INFORMANT WHO TESTIFIED CLAIMED THAT HE HIMSELF HAD COMMITTED PERJURY OR PROVIDED FALSE INFORMATION INCRIMINATING ANOTHER INMATE ONE OR MORE TIMES.";
and:
continuing at page 8
"Inasmuch as the evidence heard by the Grand Jury was replete with examples of informants' own descriptions of perjuring themselves or otherwise fabricating information, this Grand Jury has refrained from making any findings based solely on the testimony of the informants."
and:
continuing at page 7-8
"Based on other evidence presented to it, the Grand Jury believes that the experiences and perceptions of these informants generally reflect those of the informant population at large."
and:
continuing at page 8
"Whether or not the informants' testimony is believed, the conclusion must necessarily be disturbing: either 1) egregious perjurers have been used as prosecution witnesses, or 2) law enforcement officials committed shocking malfeasance.

"Regardless of how this testimony is evaluated, it cannot be ignored. But for one informant's public exposure of these practices the Special Counsel would probably not have been appointed to investigate and present evidence before the Grand Jury and the extent of this problem within Los Angeles County would not have been examined by the Grand Jury."
350.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 30-31
"INFORMANTS ALSO PROCURE INFORMATION ON A CRIME FROM THE DEFENDANT HIMSELF, AND THEN USE THAT INFORMATION TO FALSELY ACCUSE THE DEFENDANT OF HAVING CONFESSED.";
and:
continuing at page 30-31
"IN ONE CASE, A DEFENDANT DESCRIBED A CRIME HE HAD WITNESSED. THE INFORMANTS THEN USED THAT KNOWLEDGE TO CLAIM THE DEFENDANT ADMITTED COMMITTING THE MURDER ... THE INFORMANT ALLEGEDLY MODIFIED THE LANGUAGE OF THE STATEMENT SLIGHTLY AND PROFESSED IT TO BE A CONFESSION."
351.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 95
"WHEN THE COOPERATING INFORMANT IS TOLD THAT IT WILL BE REPORTED IN HIS FAVOR IF HE GIVES 'TRUTHFUL' TESTIMONY, IT IS ONLY REASONABLE THAT 'TRUTHFUL' TO THE INFORMANT MEANS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROSECUTION'S THEORY OF THE CASE. OTHERWISE, OF COURSE, THERE IS NO POINT IN CALLING THE INFORMANT AS A WITNESS. SUCH AN INCENTIVE TO PROVIDE TESTIMONY MAY HAVE A SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE ON THE INTEGRITY OF THE FACT-FINDING PROCESS."
352.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 75
"THE INSTITUTIONALIZATION OF THE BENEFIT SYSTEM IS CONFIRMED BY THE TESTIMONY OF DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S IN THEIR RESPONSES TO WRITTEN INQUIRIES FROM THEIR OWN OFFICE AND FROM SPECIAL COUNSEL. THE BENEFITS INFORMANTS RECEIVE ARE VARIED. THE MOST SIGNIFICANT REWARDS OBVIOUSLY INVOLVE DISMISSAL OF CHARGES, IMPOSITION OF A LESSER SENTENCE, OR REDUCTION OF A SENTENCE ALREADY IMPOSED.";
and:
continuing at page 95
"MODIFICATIONS OF SENTENCES AND REDUCTIONS IN SENTENCES RANGED FROM DAYS, TO MONTHS, TO YEARS FOLLOWING THEIR TESTIMONY ON BEHALF OF THE PROSECUTION.";
and:
continuing at page 75 (footnote in report)
"AT THE SAME TIME, THE GRAND JURY DOES NOT SUGGEST FAVORABLE TREATMENT IS ADVISABLE. ONE EXPERT SUMMARIZED HIS PHILOSOPHY AS, 'I DON'T REWARD ANYBODY FOR ANYTHING.' BASED ON HIS EXPERIENCE, HE OPINED THAT OFFERING REWARDS FOR INFORMATION TO CONVICTS MERELY ENCOURAGES THEM TO FABRICATE INFORMATION. HE STATED, 'NINETY-FIVE PERCENT OF THE STUFF (INFORMATION) YOU GET IS BOGUS' "
353.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 31 (Footnote)
"ACCORDING TO ONE DEFENSE ATTORNEY, IT IS PARTICULARLY PERILOUS TO PLACE A JUVENILE, WHO WILL BE TRIED AS AN ADULT, WITH ADULTS BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY OF ADULTS TO PREY ON THE NAIVETE OF THE JUVENILE. OBVIOUSLY, LESS ASTUTE INMATES COULD BE SIMILARLY TRICKED. SUCH INMATES ARE AN ESPECIALLY ENTICING OPPORTUNITY TO A WILY INFORMANT -- WHO MIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE, OFFER TO ASSIST THE DEFENDANT IN HIS CASE AND THEREBY ELICIT THE DEFENDANT'S KNOWLEDGE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT'S VERSION OE' THE CRIME."

This is exactly the script Hughes ran on me. He opened with God, salvation, and hope — the language of the home I'd lost. He worked his way into my trust until he could safely ask about the charges I was facing. When rumors began circulating that Dowtu and Wallace were fabricating a confession against me, Hughes was right there with reassurance: he would defend me, challenge them, testify on my behalf if it came to it. 404, 407, 411 Every word of it was rehearsal. The Grand Jury's “wily informant” preying on a juvenile's “naiveté” was not a hypothetical. It was Hughes. It was me.

354.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 118-119
"WHETHER ALL [District Attorney's Office] PARTICIPANTS AT THE MEETING [discussing whether or not to create an informant index to assist in tracking future informant performance and reliability] SUSPECTED THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OF INTENTIONALLY PLACING INFORMANTS NEXT TO DEFENDANTS WAS ALSO DISPUTED BY SOME GRAND JURY TESTIMONY. HOWEVER, ONE MANAGEMENT OFFICIAL WHO ATTENDED THE MEETING TESTIFIED AS FOLLOWS: 'IT IS JUST MY EXPERIENCE THAT OVER THE YEARS IN TOUGH CASES WHERE . . . WE HAVE FILED A CASE AND WE KNOW THE DEFENDANT DID IT,* BUT THE AMOUNT OF AVAILABLE EVIDENCE THAT WE CAN PRESENT IN COURT IS A LITTLE ON THE THIN SIDE AND A STATEMENT [from an informant] WOULD CERTAINLY BE HELPFUL, THAT SOONER OR LATER THOSE STATEMENTS BECOME AVAILABLE TO US . . . . THAT [it] IS MY SUSPICION THAT IT IS A FAIRLY COMMON PRACTICE [of the Sheriff's Department to intentionally place inmates in proximity to obtain incriminating evidence].'"

* “We know the defendant did it.” Police and others in law enforcement who somehow "know the defendant did it" are not a rare or recent development. They are the very reason for due-process jurisprudence — the reason we do not lock people up, or summarily execute them, on mere suspicion, "gut feeling," or whim. They are why we demand a higher standard of justice. The fact that even those more stringent safeguards sometimes fail is why we have courts of appeal and a two-tiered (state and federal) legal system to hear petitions for redress. It is why Habeas Corpus — the so-called "prisoner's last chance" — not only exists but was incorporated by the Framers into the most important document in the land: the Constitution of the United States. This is no small afterthought and no trifling matter of "legal technicality." It is an essential component of all our freedom.

Van Nuys police probably would have reported that they also "knew the defendant did it" after encountering me disheveled, long-haired and bloody-handed, hysterical and ranting outside the home in which my mom — with whom I'd had a history of disagreements — lay beaten, stabbed, unconscious, and near death. And in remarkable accord with the Grand Jury's report, law enforcement in my case did, in fact, find that "sooner or later those [snitch] statements become available" to them.

and, from page 121:
Id. — senior management official of the District Attorney's Office, testifying before the Grand Jury
Page 121
"I KNEW THAT INFORMANTS, ESPECIALLY THOSE IN THE JAILHOUSE VARIETY, WERE LIABLE TO SAY ANYTHING THAT WOULD GET THEM ANY ADVANTAGE, AND SO I NEVER EVEN GOT TO THE POINT . . . . I JUST PRETTY WELL ASSUMED THEY WERE ALL UNTRUSTWORTHY AND THAT ANYTHING THAT THEY EVER GAVE ME OR I EVER USED WOULD HAVE TO BE IN SOME MANNER VERY THOROUGHLY CORROBORATED. I GUESS, IN SHORT, I NEVER BELIEVED ANYTHING ANY OF THEM SAID . . . ." [emphasis added]

A senior officer in the Los Angeles District Attorney's Office, under oath, admitted that he assumed every jailhouse informant was a liar — and used them anyway. Not as deterrents. As tools. The State's own management knew the men it was putting on the witness stand could not be believed. They used them in my case all the same.

355.

[Footnote 355 is not present in the source Footnotes - 1-719.docx. Bruce — please add the citation here.]

356.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at top) – Page 2
"HE SAYS TO ME FIRST, WHEN HE FIRST, I GUESS THE FIRST HAND TO HAND CONTACT WAS IN THE MOTHER'S BEDROOM. NOW, YOU KNOW, IF THE PURSE WAS IN THERE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND HE SAID IT STARTED IN HIS MOM'S BEDROOM. SHE KINDA GOT OUT OF HAND, YOU KNOW. [1] SHE GRABBED HIS SHIRT AND RIPPED IT, YOU KNOW. AND SHE WAS TRYING TO SLAP HIM AROUND AND THEN HE WAITS FOR, UH, OH, [2] HE GETS SOME STEAK KNIVES AND CATCHES HER IN THE HALL AND WHAM, HE STABS HER WITH THE STEAK KNIVES, AND HE LEAVES THEM IN, LEAVES THEM IN HER BACK. SHE WAS HURT PRETTY BAD, SHE WAS STARTING TO BLOW IT, I MEAN, HE WAS BLOWING IT ALREADY. AND HE STARTED GETTING PARANOID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO, SO HE STARTED SMASHING HER HEAD. [3] HE TOLD ME HE USED A TROPHY TO SMASH HER HEAD IN, HE WAS BEATING HER, YOU KNOW, HE WAS… [ellipses in original] IT WAS ALL HEAD BLOWS FROM THE WAY HE RAN IT DOWN TO ME. [4] HE SAID HE USED ANOTHER ITEM TO SMASH HER HEAD [copy obscured; alternate copy passage reads: "IN. HE CALLED IT A BOWL WORKER." [copy again readable:] IT'S AN EXERCISE MACHINE. IT'S GOT TWO GRIPS ON IT, TWO HANDLE GRIPS AND THERE'S A BIG SPRING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S KIND OF, YOU KIND OF DO ISOMETRICS WITH IT. WHALED ON HER WITH THAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND HE MENTIONED SOMETHING, HE REALLY STARTED PANICKING THEN CAUSE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE, SAID SHE WAS STILL BREATHING. HE STARTED BLOWING IT, SO HE SMASHED HER HEAD IN TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HER BRAIN WAS PRETTY WELL GONE SO SHE WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO, HE WAS GETTING SCARED SHE'D TELL ON HIM." [emphasis added]
357.
Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927)
Dennis H./William M. Juvenile Detention Hearing
April 4, 1983 – Page 25-27
A:"... AND WHEN THE BLOW FROM THE EXERCISE BAR CAME DOWN, BASED ON WHAT THE DOCTOR INDICATED, THAT ONE BLOW FRACTURED THE ARM."
and:
LAPD Follow-Up Investigation
Page 10
"... VERY CONSISTENT WITH VICTIM'S INJURIES TO HER RIGHT ARM AND SKULL FRACTURE TO HER FACE AND A LARGE, HEAVY INSTRUMENT (SUCH AS THE EXERCISE BAR) STRIKING HER IN A DOWNWARD FASHION."
358.

Defense wounds are injuries appearing primarily on the extremities (hands; forearms, legs and feet) and sometimes the face and chest, which are caused when a victim fights back or defends against an attacker's thrusts or stabs with a sharp object. The fact that a number of these wounds were present on my mothers left hand (only) is suggestive of her killer/s having staved and thrust at her with the steak knives numerous times.

359.
Declaration of Kathie Klass, dated April 12, 1998
"First: My name is Kathie Klass….Third: Through numerous contacts with Dorka Lisker, I came to know that she was right-handed. Fourth: This knowledge came to me from Dorka herself, on one or more occasions when she and I shared the task of preparing for the holiday meal. Seating for Robert [Lisker] and his sister Roxane, both left-handed, had to be takn into consideration, and the conversation was this begun where I learned of Dorka being right-handed.
360.

Los Angeles Count Autopsy Report No. 83-3174 (Lisker, Dorka G.)
There was a total absence of slashes or cuts on the right hand.

[View Autopsy Diagrams]

361.
Los Angeles County Autopsy Report No. 83-3174 (Lisker, Dorka G.)
Page 8
"3. UN THE BACK OF THE CHEST, 18-3/4 INCHES BELOW THE TOP OF THE HEAD AND ½ INCH TO THE LEFT OF THE MIDLINE THERE IS A LINEAR CUT OR SUPERFICIAL STAB WOUND MEASURING 1/8 INCH IN LENGTH. INFERIORLY THERE IS A SQUARED OFF OR FLATTENED . EDGE 1/32 INCH. THE WOUND PASSES ONLY THROUGH THE SKIN AND THERE IS A SMALL AMOUNT OF SOFT TISSUE HEMORRHAGE." [See Coroner's diagram's at Note #362, below]
362.
Los Angeles County Autopsy Report No. 83-3174 (Lisker, Dorka G.)
Page 8
"4. IN THE LEFT FLANK REGION, 19-1/2 INCHES BELOW THE TOP OF THE HEAD AND 3 INCHES FROM THE BACK OF THE BODY THERE IS A 1/4 INCH LONG, TRANSVERSELY ORIENTED SUPERFICIAL INCISED WOUND OR SUPERFICIAL STAB WOUND EXTENDING ONLY INTO THE SKIN. IT MEASURES 1/4 INCH IN LENGTH AND THE SQUARED OFF OR FLATTENED EDGE IS ANTERIOR LESS THAN 1/32 INCH AND THE POINTED END IS POSTERIOR. THE WOUND IS ANTEMORTEM AND IS RED-BROWN IN COLOR." [View Autopsy Diagram]
363.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 7983, (version with page numbers at top) – Page 2
"HE SAYS TO ME FIRST, WHEN HE FIRST, I GUESS THE FIRST HAND TO HAND CONTACT WAS IN THE MOTHER'S BEDROOM. NOW HOW, YOU KNOW, IF THE PURSE WAS IN THERE OR SOMEWHERE ELSE, AND HE SAID IT STARTED IN HIS MOM'S BEDROOM. SHE KIND OF GOT AFTER HIM. [1] SHE GRABBED HIS SHIRT AND RIPPED IT, YOU KNOW. AND SHE WAS TRYING TO SLAP HIM AROUND AND THEN HE WAITS FOR, UH, OH, [2] HE GETS SOME STEAK KNIVES AND CATCHES HER IN THE HALL AND WHAM, HE STABS HER WITH TWO STEAK KNIVES, AND HE LEAVES THEM IN, LEAVES THEM IN HER BACK. SHE WAS HURT PRETTY BAD, AND HE STARTED BLOWING IT, BUT, I MEAN, HE WAS BLOWING IT ALREADY. AND HE STARTED GETTING PARANOID ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT HE WAS GOING TO D0, SO HE STARTED SMASHING HER HEAD. [3] HE TOLD ME HE USED A TROPHY TO SMASH HER HEAD IN, HE WAS BEATING HER, YOU KNOW, HE WAS... IT WAS ALL HEAD BLOWS FROM THE WAY HE RAN IT DOWN TO ME. [4] HE SAID HE USED ANOTHER ITEM TO SMASH HER HEAD [Copy obscured, alternate copy passage reads: "... IN. HE CALLED IT A BOWL WORKER."

Copy again readable] IT'S AN EXERCISE MACHINE. IT'S GOT TWO GRIPS ON IT, TWO HANDLE GRIPS AND THERE'S A BIG STRING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S KIND OF, YOU KIND OF DO ISOMETRICS WITH IT. WHALED ON HER WITH THAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND HE MENTIONED SOMETHING, HE REALLY STARTED PANICKING THEN CAUSE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE, SAID SHE WAS STILL BREATHING. HE STARTED BLOWING IT, SO HE SMASHED HER HEAD IN TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HER BRAIN WAS PRETTY WELL GONE SO SHE WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, ABLE T0, HE WAS GETTING SCARED SHE'D TELL ON HIM." [emphasis added]

364.

Reading the LAPD Follow-Up Investigation report from beginning towards end, the following passages are encountered, in the sequence indicated:

LAPD Follow-Up Investigation
Page 2
"DETECTIVES OBSERVED THE SUBJECT IN THE BACK OF A POLICE UNIT. HE APPEARED TO BE HIGHLY EXCITED AS HE WAS TALKING VERY LOUDLY BUT WAS NOT DIRECTING HIS CONVERSATION TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR. DETECTIVES OBSERVED THAT SUBJECT HAD WHAT APPEARED TO BE DRY BLOOD ON BOTH HANDS. [1] DETECTIVES FURTHER NOTED THAT HIS SHIRT WAS TORN IN SEVERAL PLACES." [emphasis added]; and Id., at top of page 3 "DETECTIVES ENTERED THE CRIME SCENE AND OBSERVED A LARGE AREA OF BLOOD ON THE FLOOR AT THE END OF THE ENTRY HALLWAY. DETECTIVES OBSERVED A BLUE/GREEN BATH TOWEL LAYING ON THE FLOOR NEAR A CEMENT BLOCK PLANTER BOX WHICH SEPARATES THE DINING ROOM FROM THE LIVING ROOM AND ENTRY HALLWAY. ACCORDING TO THE OFFICERS, THE VICTIM'S HEAD HAD BEEN RESTING ON THE TOWEL WHEN THE PARAMEDICS ARRIVED. [2] DETECTIVES OBSERVED TWO KNIVES THAT APPEARED TO BE THE COMMON TABLE STEAK KNIFE TYPE [sic] LYING IN THE HALLWAY WHICH LEADS INTO THE DINING ROOM. THESE KNIVES WERE APPROXIMATELY THREE FEET FROM WHERE THE VICTIM HAD BEEN LYING. DETECTIVES NOTED THAT BOTH KNIVES APPEARED TO HAVE BLOOD ON THEM." [emphasis added]; and Id. at middle of page 3 "DETECTIVES NOTED BLOOD SPOTS ON THE WALLS [3] AND OBSERVED A BASEBALL TROPHY LAYING INSIDE THE MASTER BEDROOM, AGAINST THE CLOSET. JUST INSIDE THE MASTER BEDROOM, THERE WAS A LARGE CLOSET ALONG THE EAST WALL OF THE MASTER BEDROOM." [emphasis added]; and Id. near bottom of page 3 "[4] ALSO IN THE MASTER BEDROOM, RESTING AGAINST THE WESTERN WALL, NEXT TO THE DRESSING TABLE, WAS AN EXERCISE BAR. THE BAR WAS APPROXIMATELY 3 FEET LONG AND 21 OR THREE INCHES IN DIAMETER. ON ONE END OF THE BAR, THERE WERE BLOOD STAINS." [emphasis added]
365.
Declaration of Bruce Lisker, dated July 3, 1998
"TWENTY-FIRST: HUGHES PROFESSED NOTHING BUT A FIERCE LOYALTY TO MY CAUSE, PRAYING WITH ME OFTEN AND REASSURING ME THAT THE LORD WOULD SEE THAT TRUTH PREVAILED, SEE ME TOTALLY EXONERATED, AND WOULD RESTORE MY FREEDOM. HE DECLARED AN UNWAVERING BELIEF IN MY INNOCENCE, AND WAS A SOURCE OF GREAT SPIRITUAL PEACE FOR ME. "TWENTY-SECOND: TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE WAS NOTHING ABOUT THE MURDER INVESTIGATION AND RESULTING COURT ACTIONS OF WHICH I WAS PERSONALLY AWARE AND DID NOT SHARE WITH HUGHES IN OUR CONVERSATIONS. "TWENTY-THIRD: ON ONE PARTICULAR EVENING, JUST BEFORE THE DINNER MEAL, I SHOWED HUGHES ALL OF THE CASE MATERIALS WHICH I THEN HAD IN MY POSSESSION. HUGHES SAID THAT IF HE COULD SEE THEM, ACTUALLY READ ABOUT THE CASE BEING FALSELY BUILT AGAINST ME, THAT HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO HELP ME FURTHER. HE INDICATED THAT HE KNEW THE WORLD OF COURTS AND LAWYERS WELL, THAT IT INVOLVED MANY DIRTY TRICKS AND LOOPHOLES, AND THAT HE KNEW MOST OF THEM. I ACCEPTED HIS OFFER OF HELP. HUGHES SAID THAT HE WOULD READ THE REPORTS OVER DINNER AND WE WOULD DISCUSS THEM A BIT LATER. "TWENTY-FOURTH: LATER THAT EVENING, AFTER THE DINNER MEAL, HUGHES RETURNED THE REPORTS TO ME. WE AGAIN DISCUSSED THE CASE AT LENGTH, HUGHES OFFERING PERHAPS A HALF DOZEN LEGAL STRATEGY SUGGESTIONS, WHICH I FAILED TO UNDERSTAND THEN AND CANNOT POSSIBLY RECALL NOW. "TWENTY-FIFTH: DURING THE PERIOD WHEN HUGHES WAS IN POSSESSION OF THE REPORTS, I WAS UNABLE TO SEE HIM, AS THE HOLE BETWEEN OUR CELLS WAS NEAR THE REAR WALL, NOT IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR CUSTOMARY LOCATIONS WITHIN OUR RESPECTIVE CELLS. (IT WAS NECESSARY TO TAKE A SEATED POSITION IN THE EXTREME REAR CORNER OF THE CELL TO OBSERVE AND TO SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE WALL.)"
366.

Well before Hughes would crawl out of the muck and start singing for his supper, Det. Monsue had stitched me into my mother's murder. Here is the choreography: Trophy, supposed shirt-Rip, Knives, exercise Bar — TRKB. A sequence reverse-engineered from what he needed to prove. Note the R. The shirt-ripping never happened. That was a greasy old work shirt — torn already, threadbare already — that I had on that morning because I needed to crawl under my car and fix the shock. Monsue invented the rip because his choreography required one.

Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927)
Dennis H./William M. Juvenile Detention Hearing
April 4, 1983 – Page 58-60
Q:"ALL RIGHT, WOULD YOU GO TO THE DIAGRAM AND EXPLAIN TO THE COURT HOW YOU BELIEVE THE HOMICIDE TOOK PLACE."
A:"I THINK THE INITIAL CONFRONTATION PROBABLY BEGAN IN THIS AREA OF THE HOUSE, IN THIS REAR HALLWAY LOCATED BETWEEN THE SEWING ROOM, BRUCE'S ROOM AND THE TWO BATHROOMS. THE REASON BEING THE TROPHY, THAT WE SPOKE OF, WAS ORIGINALLY IN THIS ROOM AND, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE MOTHER'S VEHICLE KEYS FOUND LAYING ON THIS TABLE RIGHT HERE. I SUSPECTED THAT THE DEFENDANT CAME TO THE HOUSE, REALIZED -- OR THINKING THAT NO ONE WAS HOME, ENTERED THIS WINDOW, WAS GOING INTO THE HOUSE TO GET SOMETHING. MOTHER WAS BACK IN THE MASTER BEDROOM. SHE WAS POSSIBLY -- COULD BE PREPARING TO GO OUT OF THE HOUSE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME INDICATION THAT SHE HAD POSSIBLY BEEN DRESSING BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME CLOTHES THAT SHE WAS CHANGING INTO IN THIS PORTION. SHE HEARD BRUCE COME INTO THE HOUSE, CONFRONTED HIM AT THIS POINT. THEY GOT INTO AN ARGUMENT. ['T'] HE PICKED UP THE TROPHY AND. STRUCK HER AT THIS POINT, IN THIS PORTION OF THE HOUSE. SHE STUMBLED AND FELL AND LANDED IN THIS AREA NEAR THE CLOSET HERE. "BRUCE AT THIS POINT WENT BACK, GOT THE KNIVES, CAME BACK IN HERE, WAS GOING THROUGH HER PURSE WHICH WAS LAYING ON THIS PORTION OF THE LOVE SEAT. SHE PROBABLY GOT UP, WALKED -- STARTED IN HERE, AGAIN THE CONFRONTATION TOOK PLACE. SHE -- ['R'] BRUCE AND HER FUMBLED AND SHE WALKED DOWN THE HALLWAY AND ['K'] BRUCE STABBED HER AT THIS POINT WITH THE TWO SMALLER KNIVES. SHE FELL AT THIS LOCATION HERE. "HER STILL -- PROBABLY BEING ALIVE, HE PROBABLY RAN BACK IN HERE, GRABBED THIS, CAME BACK OUT --"
Q:"GRABBED WHAT?"
A:"['B'] THE EXERCISE BAR [Exhibit 23], CAME BACK OUT, AND STRUCK HER HERE AS SHE LAY. BRUCE INDICATED TO ME THAT SHE WAS LAYING ON HER LEFT SIDE WITH HER ARMS CURLED UP IN FRONT OF HER FACE WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN, AND SAID HER FEET WERE POINTED DIRECTLY DOWN THIS HALLWAY. I SUSPECT THAT SHE PROBABLY HAD HER ARM UP ON THIS PLANTER WHEN SHE WENT DOWN AND WHEN THE BLOW FROM THE EXERCISE BAR CAME DOWN, BASED ON WHAT THE DOCTOR INDICATED, THAT ONE BLOW FRACTURED THE ARM AND, ALSO, THE RIGHT SIDE OF HER FACE AT ONE TIME. "AT THIS POINT HERE HE BECAME VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAD OCCURRED, PROBABLY RAN INTO THIS ROOM, GRABBED THE TELEPHONE --"
Q:"INTO WHAT ROOM?"
A:"INTO THE FAMILY ROOM (i.e., the Den]. CAME BACK OUT AND NOTIFIED THE POLICE RIGHT HERE. THAT'S MY OPINION OF BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED."
371.
Letter from Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927) to California Board of Prison Terms, dated November 11, 1994
"THIS CASE WAS A PARTICULARLY BRUTAL MURDER OF THE INMATE'S ELDERLY MOTHER, WHO WAS BEATEN TO DEAD [sic] WITH A THREE FOOT ONG [sic] METAL EXERCSIE [sic] BAR. THE INMATE WENT TO HIS MOTHER'S HOME AND WAS CAUGHT BY HER GOING THROUGH HER PURSE. THE INMATE HIDE [sic] APPROXIMATELY $140.00 HE HAD TAKEN FROM HIS MOTHER'S PURSE, THEN SET ABOUT TO MAKE THE CRIME SCENE APPEARS [sic] AS IF A BURGLAR HAD BROKEN INTO THE RESIDENCE TO COVER HIS CRIMES. "
372.

Immediately following my interrogation at Van Nuys police station, I was ordered to disrobe and surrender all the clothing I wore, down to and including my boxer shorts and socks, so they could be subjected to forensic testing. This decloaking took place under the watchful eyes of Monsue and his colleagues.

373.
Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927), Dennis H./William M. Juvenile Detention Hearing
April 4, 1983 – Page 76
A:"I DID NOT SEE ANY VISIBLE, NO."
374.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript, July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at top)
Page 3
"HUGHES: ... HE USED ANOTHER ITEM TO SMASH HER HEAD IN. HE CALLED IT A BOWL WORKER. IT'S AN EXERCISE MACHINE. IT'S GOT TWO GRIPS ON IT, TWO HANDLE GRIPS AND THERE'S A BIG SPRING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S KIND OF, YOU KIND OF DO ISOMETRICS WITH IT. WHALED ON HER WITH THAT FOR A LITTLE WHILE, AND HE MENTIONED SOMETHING, HE REALLY STARTED PANICKING THEN CAUSE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE, SAID SHE WAS STILL BREATHING, HE STARTED BLOWING IT, SO HE SMASHED HER HEAD IN TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HER BRAIN WAS PRETTY WELL GONE SO SHE WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, ABLE TO, HE WAS GETTING SCARED SHE'D TELL ON HIM."
375.
Trial, November 6, 1985
Page 550
A:"HE SAID, 'I KILLED MY MOTHER AND I FUCKED UP.' "
Q:"GO ON."
Q:"NOW, WHEN HE DESCRIBED WHAT HE HAD DONE, WHAT DID HE TELL YOU?"
A:"THEN, HE WENT INTO THE STORY ON HOW HE DID IT, AND HE TOLD ME HE WENT INTO HIS MOTHER'S HOUSE. HE WAS --"
Q:"DID HE TELL YOU WHERE THAT WAS?"
A:"HE SAID, 'SHERMAN OAKS.' THAT SHE LIVED IN SHERMAN OAKS."
376.

[Footnote 376 is not present in the source Footnotes - 1-719.docx. Bruce — please add the citation here.]

379.
Testimony of State blood expert Ronald R. Linhart, Trial
November 12, 1985 – Pages 734, 737-739
A:"THAT DROPLET WAS NEAR THE SMEARED AREA. I AM UNABLE TO LOCATE IT WITHOUT MAGNIFICATION RIGHT NOW."
Q:"ALL RIGHT. WHEN YOU EXAMINED [the shoes] DID YOU USE MAGNIFICATION?"
A:"YES, I DID."
and:
Testimony of State blood expert Ronald R. Linhart, Trial
Id. at page 742-744
A:"THERE ARE SOME OTHER STAINS THAT ARE SMALLER AND A BIT LIGHTER IN APPEARANCE THAT MIGHT NOT BE TRULY VISIBLE WITHOUT SOME MAGNIFICATION; SUCH AS, WITH A LOW POWER MICROSCOPE."
Q:"ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WHEN YOU SAY THAT THERE WERE SOME STAINS NOW THAT TESTED POSITIVE FOR BLOOD, ARE THEY HEAVY ENOUGH TO BE VISIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE?"
A:"THEY MIGHT BE WITH CAREFUL OBSERVATION. I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO A MICROSCOPE AND RETEST THEM TO SPOT THEM PRECISELY FOR YOU."
380.

See note #363.

381.

See Note #379.

384.
Testimony of State blood expert Ronald R. Linhart
Trial
December 3, 1984 – Page 443
Q:"WOULD YOU TELL US WHAT CONCLUSIONS YOU FORMED ABOUT THE PLAID SHIRT, PEOPLE'S 12?"
A:"I EXAMINED THIS ITEM FOR BLOOD. THERE WERE SOME BLOOD SMEARS ON THE FRONT OF THE SHIRT AND ON THE CORNER OF THE RIGHT CUFF BELOW THE THREADS OF A MISSING BUTTON..." [emphasis added]
386.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript, July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom), page 3;
and Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 155
A:"HE SAID THAT HE WAS GETTING PARANOID BECAUSE SHE WAS GOING TO TALK, TELL ON HIM."
Q:"THAT'S THE REASON HE SAID HE WAS GETTING PARANOID?"
A:"YES, SHE WAS STILL ALIVE."
388.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 1 [sic]
390.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 5
391.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 2
392.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 5
393.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 554
A:"AND YOU KNOW I AM KIND OF FREAKING OUT NOW. I AM KIND OF GLAD I AM NOT IN HIS ROOM."
394.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes concerning the letters he wrote to me in the 7000 Module
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 238-239
Q:"WAS THAT -- THESE LETTERS, DID THEY OCCUR PRIOR TO YOUR ORIGINAL CONVERSATION WITH BRUCE CONCERNING THIS KILLING?"
A:"NO. PARDON ME? COULD YOU--“
Q:"SURE. THESE LETTERS THAT YOU PASSED TO BRUCE, DID YOU WRITE ANY OF THESE LETTERS TO HIM CONCERNING GOD PRIOR TO YOUR CONVERSATION CONCERNING THE KILLING?"
A:"NO. I DON'T BELIEVE SO. THAT'S WHEN I FIRST MET HIM SO I WOULDN'T HAVE ANY REASON TO WRITE HIM A LETTER. I DIDN'T KNOW HIM."

Because Hughes claimed that the supposed confession had occurred during our very first conversation, and that we'd never met prior to that conversation, these letters were written by him at a point in time after the initial conversation --and the supposed confession,

396.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 238-239
Q:"DID YOU TALK ABOUT GOD IN THOSE LETTERS?"
A:"YES."
397.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 625-626
MR. MULCAHY:"YOUR HONOR, I HAVE WHAT APPEARS TO BE A HALF OR A LITTLE MORE QUARTER OF A YELLOW PIECE OF PAPER. I WOULD LIKE THAT MARKED DEFENDANT'S NEXT IN ORDER. I BELIEVE THAT WOULD BE H."
THE COURT:"OKAY."
MR. MULCAHY:"I AM MARKING IT WITH A DELTA SIGN IN THE RIGHT-HAND CORNER WITH THE LETTER H FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES. THIS IS A YELLOW PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS 'BRUCE' ON THE TOP LEFT-HAND CORNER. "IT SAYS, 'I AM PRAYING FOR YOU LITTLE BRO. I FEEL YOU ARE GOING TO THE STREETS SOON. PRAISE GOD. LOVE YOU BOBBY.' "AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I AM GOING TO SHOW IT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY."
MR. RABICHOW:"FOR THE RECORD, THERE IS ALSO SOMETHING ON THE BACK THAT IS SCRATCHED OUT. I CAN'T READ IT."
THE COURT:"OKAY."
MR. MULCAHY:"THAT IS CORRECT, YOUR HONOR. IT APPEARS TO BE IN INK ON THE BACK. PENCIL ON THE FRONT." Q (to Hughes): "SHOWING YOU DEFENSE EXHIBIT H, WOULD YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND READ IT AND TELL ME IF YOU RECOGNIZE THE HANDWRITING?"
A:"AGAIN, THIS IS MY PRINTING. IT COULD BE MINE. BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T RECALL WRITING THIS LETTER."
398.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 628-629
MR. MULCAHY:"YOUR HONOR, I HAVE A YELLOW PIECE OF PAPER THAT SAYS AT THE TOP 'PRAISE JESUS' WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE TWO EYES, A NOSE, A SMILE AND A HAPPY FACE. 'BRUCE' ON THE TOP STATING IN A PORTION OF THE LETTER, 'THE LORD GIVES ME A STRONG FEELING YOU WILL BE OUT OF THIS PIT SOON.' AT THE BOTTOM 'LOVE ALWAYS IN CHRIST, BOBBY YOUR BRO. WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT MARKED DEFENDANT'S NEXT IN ORDER."
THE COURT:"I."
399.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 641-642
MR. MULCAHY:"I HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER, YOUR HONOR, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MARKED AS DEFENSE EXHIBIT NEXT IN ORDER. I AM PUTTING A DELTA SIGN AND A' J IN THE RIGHT-HAND CORNER AND THIS APPEARS TO BE ABOUT A THREE-QUARTER PIECE OF YELLOW PAPER. IT HAS THE WORD 'BRUCE.' TOP LEFT NUMBER 1 CIRCLED ON THE TOP. THE BOTTOM IT SAYS 'BLESS THE LORD, LOVE, BOBBY.' THERE IS ALSO PRINTING AND THE WORD 'BRO BRUCE' AND IT LOOKS LIKE A CROSS. 'PRAISE JESUS' ON THE BACK. I AM SHOWING IT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AT THIS TIME.";
and:
Id. at page 644-645
Q:"EVER RECALL WRITING TO BRUCE AND SAYING 'PRAISE THE LORD'?"
A:"YES."
Q:"EVER RECALL WRITING TO BRUCE AND SAYING 'HEY, LITTLE BRO, YOU SURE ARE FINDING A PLACE IN MY HEART'?"
A:"NO."
Q:"DO YOU EVER RECALL SAYING, 'YOU ARE MAKING A TRUE START AS A CHRISTIAN'?"
A:"NO."
Q:"DO YOU EVER RECALL WRITING TO BRUCE SAYING, 'I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW [T]HAT THE LORD GAVE YOU A GOOD HEART'?"
A:"NO."
Q:"DO YOU RECALL WRITING TO BRUCE, 'HEY BRUCE, TRY TO GET YOUR DAD TO BRING SOMEONE UP AND CALL ME OUT FOR A VISIT SO I CAN TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT BLACK GUY'?"
A:"NO."
400.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes after being confronted on
the witness stand with the letters he wrote
Trial, November 7, 1985 – Page 623-624
Q:"AND THAT IS A LETTER YOU WROTE TO BRUCE?"
A:"I BELIEVE S0. ONE THING I QUESTION IS THE PRINT AND THE PRINT ON THE BACK. IT COULD BE MINE. BUT I AM NOT SURE."
Q:"DO YOU HAVE ANY TROUBLE RECOGNIZING YOUR OWN HANDWRITING?"
A:"WELL, I REALIZE IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS EASY TO COPY. I DON'T KNOW.";
and:
Id. at page 626-627
Q:"IS THAT YOUR SIGNATURE WHERE IT SAYS 'BOBBY' AT THE BOTTOM?"
A:"CAN I BORROW A PEN, YOUR HONOR, AND JUST KIND OF CHECK IT?"
THE COURT:"CERTAINLY, THERE IS PAPER, TOO."
MR. MULCAHY:"YOUR HONOR, MAY THE RECORD REFLECT AT THIS TIME THAT WHILE THE WITNESS IS OBSERVING EXHIBIT NO.-- DEFENSE, I BELIEVE IT IS H -- HE HAS THE COURT'S TABLET AND IS WRITING HIS NAME FOR COMPARISON."
THE COURT:"HE IS WRITING SOMETHING."
MR. MULCAHY:"SOMETHING FOR A COMPARISON."
HUGHES:"NO, I DON'T RECOGNIZE THE SIGNATURE.";
and:
Id. at page 645
Q:"AND DO YOU RECOGNIZE THE HANDWRITING?"
A:"THE HANDWRITING ON ALL OF THEM I AM NOT POSITIVE, YOU KNOW. I KNOW THERE ARE PROFESSIONAL ARTISTS AT THIS. I AM NOT SURE ABOUT THE HANDWRITING."
Q:"ARE YOU SAYING IT IS NOT YOURS?"
A:"WELL, NO. I AM NOT SAYING THAT."
Q:"CAN YOU SAY THAT IT IS NOT YOURS?"
A:"YES."
Q:"SO THEN ARE YOU SAYING IT IS NOT YOURS?"
A:"I AM SAYING THAT IT COULD POSSIBLY NOT BE MINE."
401.

Court Reporter's notation, in trial transcript

Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 656
"(AT 11:40 A.M. THE LUNCHEON RECESS WAS TAKEN UNTIL 2:00 P.M. OF THE SAME DAY.)"
402.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes, being questioned by DDA Rabichow immediately following the two hour, twenty minute Noon recess
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 657-658
BY MR. RABICHOW Q:"MR. HUGHES, WITH RESPECT TO THOSE LETTERS, ALTHOUGH YOU CAN'T REMEMBER EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN TO HIM, ARE YOU DENYING ANY OF THOSE ARE YOUR LETTERS?"
A:"NO."
MR. RABICHOW:"I WOULD OFFER TO STIPULATE THOSE ARE HIS LETTERS."
THE COURT:"COUNSEL?"
MR. RABICHOW:"I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXHIBIT NUMBERS ARE. WHATEVER THEY ARE. C THROUGH I?"
MR. MULCAHY:"C THROUGH, I BELIEVE THE LAST ONE WAS J. YOUR HONOR, AM I CORRECT?"
THE COURT:"C IS AN ENVELOPE."
MR. MULCAHY:"C IS AN ENVELOPE WHICH WAS WRITTEN ON THE EXTERIOR SIDE."
THE COURT:"C THROUGH J."
MR. MULCAHY:"IT WILL BE STIPULATED BY THE DEFENSE THOSE ARE MR. HUGHES' LETTERS AND DOCUMENTS THAT HE WROTE."
MR. RABICHOW:"YES, I WOULD STIPULATE."
THE COURT:"ALL RIGHT."
403.
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 620-621
MR. MULCAHY:"I HAVE BEFORE ME ANOTHER DOCUMENT, A LEGAL SIZE PIECE OF PAPER THAT I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MARKED."
THE COURT:"G."
MR. MULCAHY:"NEXT IN ORDER WHICH WOULD BE DEFENDANT'S G. I HAVE JUST PLACED A DELTA SIGN WITH A G NEXT TO IT IN THE RIGHT HAND CORNER. THE TOP OF IT SAYS, 'BRUCE.' FOR IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES IT SAYS, 'PRAISE GOD. LOVE ALWAYS IN JESUS, BOBBY, AND KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT ABOUT YOUR CASE TOTALLY.' THAT'S DEFENSE EXHIBIT G. THERE IS ALSO WRITING ON THE REVERSE SIDE OF THAT DOCUMENT."
THE COURT:"OKAY."
MR. MULCAHY:"I AM SHOWING IT TO THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY AT THIS TIME."
THE COURT:"OKAY. G FOR IDENTIFICATION."
404.
Testimony of Robert B. Lisker concerning his first conversation with informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 14, 1985 – Page 935
Q:"AND AT THE TIME THAT YOU TOLD HIM THAT YOU WERE BRUCE'S FATHER, WHAT DID HE SAY TO -YOU?"
A:"HE SAID TO ME, 'I AM GLAD TO MEET YOU. I AM IN THE CELL NEXT TO BRUCE. WE TALK TO EACH OTHER THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE WALL. HE IS A GOOD KID. HE IS GOING TO MAKE A FINE CHRISTIAN AND I KNOW HE IS HAVING SOME TROUBLE BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE THAT I TALK T0, DOWTU AND WALLACE, WHO WERE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER A FRAME ON BRUCE AND WANTED ME TO PARTICIPATE.' ";
and:
Id. at page 936
A:"HE THEN SAID, 'I KNOW BRUCE DIDN'T DO IT. HE IS A GOOD KID. HE IS GOING TO BE OUT OF HERE SOON.' "
Q:"SO AT THE TIME THAT YOU TALKED TO MR. HUGHES, MR. HUGHES TOLD YOU THAT HE KNEW THAT BRUCE DID NOT DO IT?"
A:"YES, HE DID."
Q:"AND HE TOLD YOU THAT HE THOUGHT THAT BRUCE WAS GOING TO BE OUT OF THERE SOON?"
A:"THAT IS CORRECT.";
and:
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 6
HUGHES:"I KNOW THAT THEY WAS LYING FROM THE WAY THEY APPROACHING HIM [sic] IN THE SHOWER. THEY WERE BOTH LYING, CAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW HIM.";
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 211-212
Q:"DID YOU AT ANY TIME DURING YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH BRUCE LISKER TELL HIM THAT THERE WERE TWO INDIVIDUALS, ONE BY THE NAME OF WALLACE AND ONE BY THE NAME OF DOWTU, INMATES THAT WERE ATTEMPTING TO GET INFORMATION TO TESTIFY AGAINST HIM IN COURT AND THAT YOU WOULD TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF MR. LISKER?"
A:"WHEN WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE?"
Q:"WHEN YOU WERE IN JAIL DID YOU HAVE ANY CONVERSATION LIKE THAT?"
A:"YES. CONCERNING MR. DOWTU AND MR. WALLACE, YES."
Q:"YOU TOLD MR. BRUCE LISKER THAT YOU WERE GOING TO TESTIFY ON HIS BEHALF?"
A:"YES, I D0."
Q:"AND THAT YOU KNEW THAT DOWTU AND WALLACE WERE LYING ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE GAVE THEM -- THAT BRUCE LISKER GAVE THEM INFORMATION CONCERNING HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Id. at page 240
Q:"DID YOU EVER WRITE IN ANY OF THOSE LETTERS [to Bruce] THAT YOU KNEW THAT DOWTU AND WALLACE WERE LYING ABOUT HIM TELLING THEM ANYTHING AND THAT YOU WERE GOING TO TESTIFY ON BRUCE'S BEHALF?"
A:"POSSIBLY. I'M NOT SURE.";
and:
Id. at page 241, concerning Lisker private investigator Sue Sarkis
Q:"DID YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH HER CONCERNING STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY BRUCE LISKER?"
A:"NO. BY DOWTU AND WALLACE. STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE BY THEM. THAT WAS THE CONVERSATION."
Q:"AND THOSE WERE CONCERNING STATEMENTS WHERE THERE WERE ALLEGED ADMISSIONS AS TO BRUCE'S INVOLVEMENT THAT WERE UNTRUE AND YOU WERE GOING TO TESTIFY ON BRUCE'S BEHALF?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 586
Q:"I BELEIVE YOU INDICATED THAT YOU TALKED TO ROBERT LISKER, BRUCE'S FATHER, AT THE JAIL THROUGH THE GLASS WINDOW THROUGH THE TELEPHONE?"
A:"YES."
Q:"DID YOU TELL HIM ANYTHING ABOUT NOT TO WORRY ABOUT ANY JAIL INMATES, YOU KNEW THEY WERE LYING ABOUT BRUCE'S CASE?"
A:"I TOLD HIM THAT -- WELL -- BRUCE SAID HE WAS HAVING PROBLEMS WITH DOWTU AND WALLACE AND HIS FATHER CALLED ME OVER TO THE WINDOW AT THE END OF THE VISIT AND I ASSURED HIM THAT THEY WERE LYING, YES."
405.

Pre-liminary Hearing, November 14, 1983, page 265
Hughes threatened to withdraw his testimony in my case because his earlier snitching efforts had not bore sentence-reduction fruit, and he was reportedly losing time credits testifying in my case. Then DDA Rabichow told Hughes he would do all he could to 'look into' the snitch's premature release, and Hughes decided to resume his testimony, commenting on his decision:
"WELL, THE MAIN THING THAT MADE ME CHANGE MY MIND FROM THE TIME I CALLED YOU [and threatened to withdraw] AND WHY I'M FINISHING THE CROSS-EXAMINATION WAS MORALS. THERE'S A LITTLE PERSONAL BENEFIT THERE, I STILL G02' A HOPE THAT I'M GOING TO GET A TIME CUT BUT THERE'S MORALS INVOLVED IN WHAT BRUCE DID."

406.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 5
HUGHES:"THEN HE COMES OUT WITH THE STORY ABOUT, THESE GUYS IN THE NEXT ROOM, TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION FROM HIM. HIM [Dowtu] BEING SHADOWS [White prison jargon meaning a Black prisoner] AND YOU KNOW. NONE OF US WAS TALKING TO HIM AND JUST WANTED NOTHING TO DO WITH " [Statement trails off in original.]
407.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 6
HUGHES:"I KNOW THAT THEY WAS LYING FROM THE WAY THEY APPROACHING HIM [sic] IN THE SHOWER. THEY WERE BOTH LYING, CAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW HIM."
408.

See Note #406.

409.

See Note #404.

410.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 211-212
Q:"DID YOU AT ANY TIME DURING YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH BRUCE LISKER TELL HIM THAT THERE WERE TWO INDIVIDUALS, ONE BY THE NAME OF WALLACE AND ONE BY THE NAME OF DOWTU, INMATES THAT WERE ATTEMPTING TO GET INFORMATION TO TESTIFY AGAINST HIM IN COURT AND THAT YOU WOULD TESTIFY ON BEHALF OF MR. LISKER?"
A:"WHEN WAS THIS SUPPOSED TO TAKE PLACE?"
Q:"WHEN YOU WERE IN JAIL DID YOU HAVE ANY CONVERSATION LIKE THAT?"
A:"YES. CONCERNING MR. DOWTU AND MR. WALLACE, YES."
Q:"YOU TOLD MR. BRUCE LISKER THAT YOU WERE GOING TO TESTIFY ON HIS BEHALF?"
A:"YES, I DO."
Q:"AND THAT YOU KNEW THAT DOWTU AND WALLACE WERE LYING ABOUT THE FACT THAT HE GAVE THEM -- THAT BRUCE LISKER GAVE THEM INFORMATION CONCERNING HIS INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PARTICULAR INCIDENT?"
A:"YES."
411.
Declaration of Robert B. Lisker, dated March 23, 1989
"HUGHES DOES NOT REMEMBER TELLING ME HE THOUGHT BRUCE WAS INNOCENT."
412.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 6
413.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes concerning our relationship at the time of our very first conversation, in which he claimed I'd confessed to him the murder of my mother
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 579
Q:"ACCORDING TO DIRECT EXAMINATION, ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU RECALL, BRUCE DID NOT TELL YOU HE WAS BRUCE LISKER EITHER; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"CORRECT."
Q:"AND AT THAT TIME YOU GUYS WERE BOTH STRANGERS TO EACH OTHER BECAUSE YOU HAD NEVER MET EACH OTHER PRIOR TO THAT?"
A:"RIGHT."
414.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 5
416.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 6
418.
Letter from private investigator Phil Walker to Robert Lisker, dated March 3, 1989
Page 2
419.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 583-584
Q:"DID YOU TALK TO ROBERT LISKER?"
A:"YES."
Q:"AT THE COUNTY JAIL?"
A:"YES."
Q:"ON THE PHONE?"
A:"YES."
Q:"IN THE 7000 BLOCK?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Id. at page 583-584
Q:"WITH THE TELEPHONE?"
A:"OH, YES. YES, I DID IN THE VISITING ROOM, RIGHT.";
and:
Id. at page 586
Q:"I BELIEVE YOU INDICATED THAT YOU TALKED TO ROBERT LISKER, BRUCE'S FATHER, AT THE JAIL...?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Testimony of Robert B. Lisker
Trial
November 14, 1985 – Page 932
Q:"ON HOW MANY OCCASIONS DID YOU SPEAK WITH MR. HUGHES?"
A:"TWICE."
Q:"AT BOTH TIMES IT WAS AT THE L.A. COUNTY JAIL?"
A:"THAT IS CORRECT."
420.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 4
"... APPARENTLY HE AND HIS ROOMMATE, YOU KNOW, LIVING IT UP, THEIR MONEY, AND SHE GOT REALLY TIRED OF IT..."
421.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 1
"HE SAID A, HE WENT INTO HIS MOM'S HOUSE, HE WAS USING DRUGS AT THE TIME, PCP, AND WENT TO HIS MOM'S HOUSE AND HE WAS GETTING MONEY OFF HER, FOR DRUGS.";
and:
Id. at page 1-2
"ANYWAY, HE GOES OVER TO HIS FOLKS HOUSE, HE'S LIVING AT ANOTHER HOUSE OR APARTMENT SOMEWHERE, HE GOES OVER TO HIS FOLK'S HOUSE AND A, HIS MOM IS THERE AND HE ASKED FOR SOME BUCKS. HE ASKED FOR SOME BUCKS FOR SOME DRUGS AND SHE SAID, WELL NOT FOR SOME DRUGS. HE GAVE HER SOME REASON FOR GETTING SOME MONEY FROM HER.";
and:
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 551
A:"... HE HAD BEEN USING HIS FOLKS IN THE PAST FOR HIS DRUG HABIT AND HE TOLD ME HE WAS USING A LOT OF PCP AT THE TIME AND HE DIDN'T HAVE MONEY TO GET THE DRUGS, YOU KNOW, TO SUPPORT HIS HABIT."
422.

John Michael Ryan, Jr., on his living arrangements during his trip to Los Angeles near the time of the murder

Monsue/Ryan Interview Transcript
May 4, 1983 – Page 5
MONSUE:"WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST STAY THERE IN THE BRUCE'S [sic] APARTMENT?"
RYAN:"I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO ASK HIM BECAUSE ME AND HIM GOT IN A BIG ARGUMENT BEFORE, FOR HE TOLD ME I HAD TO LEAVE HIS APARTMENT."
423.

Phencyclidine, also called PCP, is an inexpensive street drug popular mostly in the 1970's and 80's, widely known to drug users and substance abuse experts -- and lying jail house snitches -- as a cause of aberrant, unpredictable and even violent outbursts on the part of its users. Because Hughes knew it was impossible for me and my attorney to prove a negative, that I'd never used the drug before, and, obviously because of the drug's notorious reputation, this position represented a win-win situation for Hughes. It provided an acceptable motive for this violent, otherwise motiveless suburban murder, it was unable to be effectively contested, and it appeared to link the missing cash with me by virtue of the sophistic claim that I needed it to buy more of the drug. And consider:

According to Microsoft (R) Encarta (R) Encyclopedia, (c) 1993-1996, Microsoft
Corporation, All Rights Reserved:
"PHENCYCLIDINE (PCP) IS A GENERAL ANESTHETIC THAT HAS BECOME A
MAJOR DRUG OF ABUSE BECAUSE OF ITS POTENT PSYCHOLOGICAL AND
BEHAVIORAL EFFECTS. INTRODUCED IN THE 1950'S AS A RELATIVELY NON-TOXIC ANIMAL ANESTHETIC, PCP HAS HARSH SIDE EFFECTS THAT MAKE IT UNSUITABLE FOR ANESTHESIA IN HUMANS. WITHIN A FEW YEARS, HOWEVER, ILLEGAL PCP WAS SOLD AS A SUBSTITUTE AND ADULTERANT FOR SUCH HALLUCINOGENS AS LYSERGIC ACID DIETHYLAMIDE (LSD), MESCALINE, AND TETRAHYDROCANNABINOL (THC). CUSTOMARY USERS OF OTHER HALLUCINOGENS USUALLY DID NOT LIKE THE SEVERE PSYCHOLOGICAL EFFECTS OF PCP; IT BECAME POPULAR AMONG TEENAGERS IN THE 1970'S, HOWEVER, UNDER SUCH STREET NAMES AS 'ANGEL DUST' AND 'HOG.' USERS HAVE MORE SHARPLY CONTRASTING RESPONSES TO PCP THAN TO OTHER DRUGS OF ABUSE. IT HAS PROFOUND EFFECTS ON THINKING, TIME PERCEPTION, SENSE OF REALITY, AND MOOD; DREAMLIKE STATES, EUPHORIC OR DEPRESSED MOODS, AND BIZARRE PERCEPTUAL EXPERIENCES ARE REPORTED. NEGATIVE ASPECTS OF PCP INGESTION INCLUDE DISORIENTATION, CONFUSION, ANXIETY, IRRITABILITY, PARANOID STATES, AND DANGEROUSLY VIOLENT BEHAVIOR. HOSTILITY AND BELLIGERENCE CAN REMAIN LONG AFTER THE DRUG IS NO LONGER MEASURABLE IN THE BLOOD. CHRONIC USERS MAY ALSO EXPERIENCE DEPRESSION OR A SCHIZOPHRENIA-LIKE STATE THAT CAN LAST MONTHS AFTER DISCONTINUATION. DEATH CAN RESULT FROM ACUTE EFFECTS SUCH AS DEPRESSION OF BREATHING AND DISTURBED HEART FUNCTION. PCP ABUSE CONTINUED IN THE 1980'S AND 1990'S, AND IT REMAINS A SERIOUS PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM." [emphasis added]
425.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 210
Q:"DID YOU EVER TELL HIM YOU WERE BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN?"
A:"YES, I DID."
Q:"DID YOU TRY TO GET CLOSE TO HIM THROUGH YOUR RELIGIOUS CONVERSATION?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Testimony of Robert B. Lisker
Trial
November 14, 1985 – Page 943
Q:"IN EITHER OF THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. HUGHES, OTHER THAN MR. HUGHES TELLING YOU THAT BRUCE WOULD MAKE A GOOD CHRISTIAN, DID MR. HUGHES EVER DISCUSS RELIGION, THE BIBLE, OR GOD WITH YOU AND TELL YOU THAT HE WAS DISCUSSING THAT WITH BRUCE?"
A:"HE TOLD ME HE WAS A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN AND THAT HE WAS MINISTERING TO BRUCE TO ENCOURAGE HIM TO FIND FAITH." "Born-Again"

Christianity is a branch of the Christian faith founded in the belief that one's soul must be "saved" by a process of invitation and "acceptance" of Jesus Christ into one's heart, to be one's savior and Lord. This process, according to Born-Again doctrine, is in accord with several passages in the Holy Bible: Holy Bible (NKV), at John 3:3 "JESUS ANSWERED HIM AND SAID TO HIM, 'MOST ASSUREDLY I SAY TO YOU, UNLESS ONE IS BORN AGAIN, HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' "; and Id. at John 3:7 "DO NOT MARVEL THAT I SAY TO YOU, 'YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN.' "; and Id. at John 3:16 "FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON, THAT WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM SHOULD NOT PERISH BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE. FOR GOD DID NOT SEND HIS SON INTO THE WORLD TO CONDEMN THE WORLD, BUT THAT THE WORLD THROUGH HIM MIGHT BE SAVED. HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM IS NOT CONDEMNED; BUT HE WHO DOES NOT BELIEVE IS CONDEMNED ALREADY, BECAUSE HE HAS NOT BELIEVED IN THE NAME OF THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD."; and Id. at Ephesians 2:4-7 "BUT GOD, WHO IS RICH IN MERCY, BECAUSE OF HIS GREAT LOVE WITH WHICH HE LOVED US, EVEN WHEN WE WERE DEAD IN TRESPASSES, MADE US ALIVE TOGETHER, AND MADE US TO SIT TOGETHER IN THE HEAVENLY PLACES IN CHRIST JESUS..."; and Id. at Ephesians 2:7 "BY GRACE YOU HAVE BEEN SAVED THROUGH FAITH."

426.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 639
Q:"SO YOU MINISTERED TO HIM FOR AN ENTIRE HALF HOUR?"
A:"I AM NOT SURE OF THE EXACT TIME. I DID MINISTER TO HIM, YES."
427.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 150
A:"WHEN THEY LET ME OUT FOR A SHOWER HE HAD -- THEY HAD A TAG, RED TAG, ON HIS DOOR THAT SAID 'SUICIDAL JUVENILE' AND HE WAS KIND--"
and:
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 237
A:"THE SIGN THAT SAID SUICIDE IT SAID 'JUVENILE SUICIDAL.' THAT'S HOW I KNEW HE WAS A JUVENILE."

And consider the testimony heard by the Grand Jury, wherein a certain inmate was placed in the jail's "hospital section" (i.e., the 7000 Module, where I met Hughes), and said to be suicidal so that jail staff could place a snitch in his cell, ostensibly to alert jailers if he attempted to harm himself. But of course the snitch presented almost immediately with an alleged confession:

And:
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 65-66
"CASE NO. 5: "IN EARLY 1984, AN, INMATE WAS ARRESTED ON CHILD MOLESTATION CHARGES AND WAS BOOKED AT THE CENTRAL JAIL [the same facility in which I was placed in contact with the snitches]. DUE TO THE HIGH PUBLICITY SURROUNDING HIS CASE, THE INMATE WAS CLASSIFIED AS A K-10 [Keepawayl AND HOUSED IN A SINGLE MAN CELL IN THE HOSPITAL SECTION OF THE JAIL (i.e., the 7000 Module, where I encountered Robert Hughes, Sherman Wallace and Michael Dowtul. "A FEW DAYS LATER, A SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DEPUTY CAUSED THE INMATE TO BE MOVED FROM HIS ONE MAN CELL TO A TWO MAN CELL. THE DEPUTY ALSO CAUSED A SECOND INMATE, WHO WAS A KNOWN INFORMANT AND CLASSIFIED AS A K-9 [Hughes, Dowtu and Wallace were all classified K-9; Informant], TO BE PLACED IN THE CELL WITH THE FIRST INMATE. WITHIN TWENTY-FOUR HOURS, THE INFORMANT CONTACTED THE DEPUTY AND CLAIMED THE INMATE HAD MADE SEVERAL SELF-INCRIMINATING STATEMENTS TO HIM. "THE DEPUTY CONTACTED A SERGEANT FOR A LOCAL POLICE AGENCY WHO TRAVELED TO THE JAIL AND INTERVIEWED THE INFORMANT [Van Nuys homicide detective Landgren visited Hughes approximately two weeks before Hughes' first taped interview, with Monsuel. DURING THE INTERVIEW, THE INFORMANT WAS ASKED TO OBTAIN ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT SPECIFIC AREAS OF INQUIRY FROM THE INMATE. THEREAFTER THE INFORMANT RETURNED TO THE CELL HE SHARED WITH THE INMATE [Hughes was also returned to the 7000 Module]. "THE DEPUTY TESTIFIED BEFORE THE GRAND JURY THAT IT WAS 'AN ERROR' TO HAVE PLACED THE INFORMANT WITH THE INMATE [as it was a violation of law to place a juvenile inmate in contact with an adult inmate -- see Welfare & Institutions Code citations at Note #455B], BUT HE CLAIMED HE HAD DONE SO BECAUSE HE NEEDED THE INMATE'S ROOM FOR SOMEONE ELSE, AND HE FEARED THE INMATE POSSIBLY HAD SUICIDAL TENDENCIES [Hughes claimed to have seen a "suicidal juvenile" tag on my cell door] AND THAT THE INFORMANT COULD PREVENT A SUICIDE BY NOTIFYING JAILERS IF THE INMATE ATTEMPTED TO TAKE HIS OWN LIFE. THE DEPUTY TESTIFIED HE COULD NOT RECALL, WHO, IF ANYONE, WAS PLACED IN THE 'VACATED ROOM. "
428.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes concerning his claim that he'd ministered to me using Bible passages
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 587
Q:"DID YOU EVER READ THE BIBLE TO BRUCE THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE WALL WHEN YOU TALKED TO HIM?"
A:"YES."
Q:"WHAT PASSAGE DID YOU READ TO HIM?"
A:"I AM NOT SURE."
Q:"HOW MUCH OF THE BIBLE DID YOU READ TO HIM?"
A:"I AM NOT SURE AGAIN.";
and:
Id. at page 595-597
Q:"TELL ME WHAT YOU MINISTERED ABOUT WHEN YOU HAD THIS ONLY CONVERSATION ABOUT HIS CASE THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE WALL?"
A:"I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDS."
Q:"WELL, HOW ABOUT THE --"
A:"JESUS WAS."
Q:"-- THE GIST OF IT?"
A:"WAS THE CONVERSATION."
Q:"WHAT ABOUT JESUS?"
A:"WELL, I MEAN -- I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT WORDS I SAID. SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT BOILED DOWN TO HE IS THE SAVIOR."
Q:"WHAT ELSE ABOUT JESUS AND THE SAVIOR?"
A:"LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT WORDS THAT I USED. BUT I MEAN -- THAT IS AS SHORT AS I CAN KEEP IT."
Q:"YOU MINISTERED TO HIM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME THOUGH?"
A:"YES."
Q:"DID YOU JUST TELL HIM 'JESUS IS THE SAVIOR'?"
A:"NO."
Q:"DID YOU TELL HIM ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT JESUS?"
A:"I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDS."
Q:"YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE GIST OF THE CONVERSATION?"
A:"YES, IT WAS JESUS."
Q:"THAT'S ALL YOU REMEMBER IS THE CENTRAL THEME?"
A:"WELL, THAT'S BASICALLY ALL YOU HAVE TO KNOW."
Q:"DID YOU EVER QUOTE HIM FROM THE BIBLE CHAPTER AND VERSE?"
A:"POSSIBLY, YES."
Q:"SO YOU STARTED TO MINISTER TO HIM AND SAY, 'JESUS WAS A SAVIOR'? TELLING HIM WHERE HE CAN FIND OUT ABOUT JESUS?"
A:"YES."
Q:"WHERE DID YOU TELL HIM?"
A:"IN THE BIBLE."
Q:"DID YOU TELL HIM WHERE IN THE BIBLE?"
A:"NO, I DON'T REMEMBER"
Q:"DID YOU ASK HIM IF HE HAD A BIBLE?"
A:"YES."
Q:"DID HE TELL YOU HE HAD A BIBLE?"
A:"I DON'T REMEMBER."
Q:"DID YOU SEE A BIBLE ON HIM?"
A:"NO."
Q:"DID YOU HAVE A BIBLE?"
A:"YES."
Q:"DID YOU READ FROM THAT BIBLE?"
A:"YES."
Q:"WHAT DID YOU READ?"
A:"I DON'T REMEMBER.";
and:
Id. at page 598
Q:"DO YOU REMEMBER HOW LONG THE PASSAGE WAS THAT YOU READ TO HIM?"
A:"NO. I DON'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS A PASSAGE."
Q:"WHERE WAS THE RESIDENCE?"
A:"PARDON ME?"
Q:"WHERE WAS THE RESIDENCE INVOLVED IN THIS MATTER?"
A:"THE RESIDENCE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND."
Q:"THE LISKER HOUSE?"
A:"I BELIEVE SHERMAN OAKS."
Q:"YOU REMEMBER THAT BECAUSE BRUCE TOLD YOU THAT, CORRECT?"
A:"YES."
Q:"YOU PICKED OUT A SELECTIVE PASSAGE TO READ TO HIM TO CONSOLE HIM? YOU DON'T REMEMBER THE PASSAGE IN THE BIBLE THAT YOU READ TO HIM?"
A:"RIGHT."
Q:"DO YOU KNOW FROM WHAT BOOK IN THE BIBLE; JOHN, LUKE, CORINTHIANS?"
A:"NO, NOT EXACTLY.";
and:
Id. at page 624
Q:"DO YOU RECALL CITING ANY SPECIFIC BOOKS OF THE BIBLE TO BRUCE?"
A:"NO."
Q:"ANY SPECIFIC PARAGRAPHS FOR BRUCE TO READ?"
A:"NO, I DON'T."
And:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 580
Q:"SO YOU JUST MINISTERED BRUCE AND YOU NEVER ASKED BRUCE ANYTHING; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"CORRECT."
Q:"WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF MINISTER?"
A:"WELL, LIKE I SAID ON DIRECT IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT HE WAS UPSET AND I KNEW HE WAS A JUVENILE BY THE TAG ON HIS DOOR AND I GUESS 'SERVE' WOULD BE A GOOD WORD."
Q:"SO YOU WERE THERE TO SERVE HIM AT THAT TIME?"
A:"WELL, SPIRITUALLY, YES."
Q:"AND YOU WANTED NOTHING IN RETURN FROM HIM?"
A:"NO."
429.

[Footnote 429 is not present in the source Footnotes - 1-719.docx. Bruce — please add the citation here.]

430.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes in an open court debate to determine whether or not he would be required to disclose the street address of his residence in order to be available by subpoena, and his fear of retribution for his informant activities. Defense counsel then begins his third consecutive interjection, but is cut off by Hughes' outburst
Preliminary Hearing, October 6, 1983, page 171-172
Q BY MR. RABICHOW: "HAVE YOU, AS A RESULT OF THESE -- HAVING TESTIFIED, HAS ANYTHING HAPPENED TO YOU OR HAS THERE BEEN ANY THREATS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?"
A:"OH, YEAH."
A:"ON THIS LAST CASE THAT I TESTIFIED ON --"
A:"YES, LOS ANGELES."
431.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 1
HUGHES:"AND, A, I GOT TO KNOW HIM A LITTLE BIT BY BIBLE STUDYING BECAUSE I HEARD HE WAS SUICIDAL OR SOMETHING."
432.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 150
A:"WHEN THEY LET ME OUT FOR A SHOWER HE HAD -- THEY HAD A TAG, RED TAG, ON HIS DOOR THAT SAID 'SUICIDAL JUVENILE' AND HE WAS KIND--";
and:
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 237
A:"THE TAG THAT SAID SUICIDE IT SAID 'SUICIDAL JUVENILE.' THAT'S HOW I KNEW HE WAS A JUVENILE."
433.

One-On-One is essentially a suicide or self-harm prevention measure, where staff maintain direct and constant, twenty-four hour a day supervision on a juvenile detainee. While only precautionary in my case, it is practically routine when a minor is arrested on serious charges, the school of though]: being 'better safe that sorry'; to watch a kid- who doesn't need it is better,, than losing a suicidal kid who went undetected.

435.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 6
HUGHES:"... AND SHE [Lisker private investigator Sue Sarkis] ASKED ME IF THEY WOULD USE ME ON THE [Lisker] CASE AND I TOLD HER, A. I TOLD HER WELL, I'M NOT SURE. I TOLD HER THAT IF THEY [Dowtu and Wallace] SHOW UP, YES. BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW."
MONSUE:"A HU."
HUGHES:"TOLD, YOU KNOW, BLOW MY COVER, CAUSE WE STILL DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA." [emphasis added];
and:
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 600
Q:"YOU DIDN'T WANT TO BLOW YOUR COVER, DID YOU?"
A:"NO."
436.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 7
436A.
Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 10
"BY DEFINITION, JAIL HOUSE INFORMANTS HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED OF A SUBSTANTIAL AND CHERISHED RIGHT -- THEIR LIBERTY, THEIR FREEDOM. BECAUSE OF THE SERIOUS NATURE OF THE CHARGES PENDING AGAINST INFORMANTS, AND THEIR HISTORY OF RECIDIVISM, INFORMANTS OFTEN FACE POTENTIALLY LENGTHY PRISON TERMS. AS SUCH, THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE HIGHLY MOTIVATED TO CURRY FAVOR WITH THE AUTHORITIES PERCEIVED TO HAVE CONTROL OVER THEIR DESTINY."
437.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 4
MONSUE:"DID HE EVER MENTION WHETHER HE EVER TOOK ANY MONEY OR ANYTHING?"
HUGHES:"NO, I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO START QUESTIONING HIM, WHEN THEY SAY HE WAS PRETTY SMART."
438.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 570
Q:"SO THE FIRST PERSON YOU TALKED TO ABOUT THE LISKER CASE THEN WAS BRUCE LISKER HIMSELF; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"YES."
Q:"THAT WAS IN- APRIL 1983?"
A:"YES, I BELIEVE S0."
Q:"AND THAT WAS THE TIME THAT YOU TALKED THROUGH THE HOLE IN THE WALL AS YOU INDICATED ON DIRECT EXAMINATION; IS THAT CORRECT?"
A:"YES."
439.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 2
HUGHES:"... HE SAID HE USED ANOTHER, ANOTHER TO SMASH HER HEAD IN. HE CALLED IT A BOWL WORKER. IT'S AN EXERCISE MACHINE. IT'S GOT TWO GRIPS ON IT, TWO HANDLE GRIPS AND IT'S GOT A BIG SPRING IN THE MIDDLE AND IT'S KINDA LIKE [emphasis added] [gaps in original]
440.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 155
A:"... AND THEN HE SAID SHE WASN'T DEAD. SHE WASN'T DEAD YET. SO HE GOT ANOTHER ITEM, CALLED IT A BULL WORKER. IT'S AN EXERCISE MACHINE. HE EXPLAINED IT THAT IT WAS FOR ISOMETRICS.";
and:
Id. at page 156
THE COURT:"WHAT ARE YOU CALLING THE EXERCISER?"
THE WITNESS:"A BULL WORKER."
THE COURT:"A BULL WORKER?"
THE WITNESS:"HE CALLED IT A BULL WORKER."
441.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 2
442.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 2
HUGHES:"... AND HE WAITS FOR A, OH, HE GETS SOME STEAK KNIVES OUT OF THE KITCHEN. I GUESS SHE STAYS OFF IN HER BEDROOM. HE GETS THE STEAK KNIVES AND HE CATCHES HER IN THE HALL. WAM. HE STABBS [sic] HER WITH THE STEAK KNIVES. AND HE LEAVES THEM IN HER. LEAVES THEM IN HER BACK AND A SHE WAS HURTIN PRETTY BAD."
446.
Monsue/Hughes Interview Transcript
July 6, 1983, (version with page numbers at bottom) – Page 6
HUGHES:"SARKIS DETECTIVE AGENCY. SHE WAS A PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND SHE. SHE . I TOLD HER STRAIGHT OUT, THAT, YOU KNOW, THE TRUTH, THAT DOWTU AND WALLACE WAS LYING. I KNOW THAT THEY WAS LYING FROM THE WAY THEY APPROACHING HIM IN THE SHOWER. THEY WERE BOTH LYING. CAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW HIM." [gap in original]
447.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes that he was approached once, and only once, by informants Dowtu and Wallace
Trial
November 7, 1985 – Page 631
Q:"HOW MANY TIMES WERE YOU APPROACHED BY DOWTU AND WALLACE?"
A:"ONE TIME."
Q:"AND THAT WAS THE TIME IN THE SHOWER?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 191
Q:"DID THEY DISCUSS INFORMATION ABOUT BRUCE LISKER WITH YOU?"
A:"NOT INFORMATION CONCERNING HIS CASE. THEY WANTED TO -- THEY HAD NOTICED ME TALKING TO MR. LISKER AND MR. DOWTU APPROACHED ME AND WANTED TO GET INFORMATION OUT OF ME SO THAT WE -- MR. DOWTU AND I COULD GO TO COURT ON HIM. AND I TOLD HIM IN THE BRIEF CONVERSATION, NO, I DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. I DIDN'T WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT."
Q:"SO YOU KNEW DOWTU AND WALLACE WERE GATHERING INFORMATION CONCERNING BRUCE LISKER AND HIS CASE?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 577
A:"I WAS APPROACHED BY SOME INMATES ON THE CASE, BUT WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT IT, NO. I DIDN'T."
Q:"WHAT DID THE INMATES LOOK LIKE THAT APPROACHED YOU ABOUT THE CASE?"
A:"ONE WAS BLACK AND ONE WAS WHITE."
Q:"DO YOU REMEMBER THEIR NAMES?"
A:"YES. DOWTU AND WALLACE."
Q:"WHEN WERE YOU APPROACHED BY THEM?"
A:"I BELIEVE IT WAS IN THE SHOWERS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME ROOM.";
and:
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 592-593
Q:"WHAT DID YOU TALK TO THAT BLACK DUDE UP IN HIGH POWER ABOUT?"
A:"I BELIEVE HIGH POWER WAS THE 7000. THAT WAS HIGH POWER. IT WAS LIKE IT WAS HIGH POWER AND I DIDN'T TALK TO HIM. HE TALKED TO ME. "HE TRIED TO GET INFORMATION FROM ME AND WANTED TO GO LIKE A PARTNERSHIP, BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT BRUCE WAS TALKING TO ME.";
and:
consider Report of the 1989-90 Los Angeles County Grand Jury: Investigation of the Involvement of Jail House Informants in the Criminal Justice System in Los Angeles County
Page 30
"G. INFORMANTS SHARE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT CASE FACTS AMONG EACH OTHER. "IN ONE SUCH INSTANCE, EACH OF A NUMBER OF INFORMANTS PRESENTED A POLICE DETECTIVE WITH SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE FACTS WITH WHICH THE DEFENDANT SUPPOSEDLY CONFESSED. THE DETECTIVE ALLEGEDLY CORRECTED EACH INFORMANT WHERE THE INFORMANT'S STORY DEVIATED FROM THE FACTS KNOWN TO THE AUTHORITIES. THE INFORMANTS THEN SHARED WITH EACH OTHER THE DETECTIVE'S FEEDBACK, THUS ALLOWING THE INFORMANTS TO DEVELOP KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUE FACTS."

Informants will collaborate in an effort to "book" an unsuspecting inmate:

And:
Id. at page 16 (Footnote 9)
" 'BOOK' IS A TERM USED BY INFORMANTS TO MEAN 'TO PROVIDE LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH EVIDENCE AGAINST AN INMATE.' INFORMANTS TESTIFYING BEFORE THE GRAND JURY TENDED TO USE THIS TERM WHEN THE INFORMATION PROVIDED WAS FABRICATED."

; Dowtu and Wallace were. doubtless hoping Hughes would participate in the common practice of informants sharing information in order to 'book' a targeted inmate:

And:
Id. at page 18
"IN HIGHLY PUBLICIZED CASES, INFORMANTS DECLARED THAT 'IF WE GET THIS CASE, WE'LL ALL GO HOME' -- ACCORDING TO ONE INFORMANT. THAT INFORMANT EXPLAINED HOW
INFORMANTS WILL WORK AS FOLLOWS:ONE INFORMANT ACQUIRES SOME INFORMATION ON. THE CASE. HE MAY THEN RELAY THAT INFORMATION TO ANOTHER INFORMANT WHO DISSEMINATES IT TO OTHER INFORMANTS. EACH INFORMANT WILL THEN TRY THE STORY OUT ON POLICE, CHANGING A WORD HERE AND THERE FOR SLIGHT VARIATION."; and, in particular accord with Dowtu and Wallace's actions in my case:
And:
Id. at page 18
"WHEN AN INMATE PREVIOUSLY UNKNOWN TO OTHER INFORMANTS ARRIVES IN THE INFORMANTS' AREA IN THE JAIL, THE INFORMANTS WILL DISCUSS 'BOOKING' HIM ALL DAY."

Informants will even 'book' another informant if they are able, and even such a targeted snitch may not be able to detect the plot against hint:

And:
Id. at page 20
"AFTER HIS ARREST, THIS INFORMANT COOPERATED WITH POLICE BY TEACHING THEM HOW BURGLARS OPERATE. HE WAS THEN HOUSED WITH OTHER INFORMANTS. ANOTHER INFORMANT THEN TOLD HIM THAT THE OTHER INFORMANTS WERE TRYING TO 'BOOK' HIM. THIS INFORMANT, WHO THE OTHERS WERE TRYING TO 'BOOK', HAD NO INKLING WHAT THESE OTHER INFORMANTS WERE TRYING TO DO TO HIM."
448.

[Footnote 448 is not present in the source Footnotes - 1-719.docx. Bruce — please add the citation here.]

449.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 588
Q:"DO YOU REMEMBER WRITING TO BRUCE ASKING BRUCE, 'HEY, I DON'T HAVE A THING, BRO. NOT EVEN A RAZOR TO SHAVE WITH. IF YOU CAN PASS ME A FEW BUCKS, I CAN USE IT BADLY'?"
A:"I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDS. BUT I REMEMBER WRITING SOME LETTERS, YES."
Q:"SO YOU ASKED HIM FOR A RAZOR?"
A:"WITH MY MOUTH OR IN A LETTER?"
Q:"IN ANY MANNER, DID YOU ASK HIM?"
A:"OH, YES."
Q:"FOR A RAZOR?"
A:"YES, IN WRITING I DID, POSSIBLY A RAZOR. I AM NOT SURE."
Q:"DID YOU ASK HIM FOR MONEY?"
A:"I BELIEVE I DID."
Q:"DID YOU ASK HIM FOR CANDY?"
A:"IN WRITING, I AM NOT SURE. I DON'T REMEMBER."
452.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 582-583
Q:"YOU WERE SITTING IN THE HALLWAY EARLY THIS MORNING PRIOR TO TESTIFYING. YOU HAD SOME PAPERS IN YOUR HANDS. YOU WERE LOOKING AT WHAT? WERE YOU REVIEWING SOMETHING?"
A:"THOSE WERE TRANSCRIPTS OF THE INTERVIEW TAPE THAT I HAD WITH DETECTIVE MONSUE."
453.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes
Trial
November 6, 1985 – Page 610
Q:"AND HE TOLD YOU HE MADE UP AN ALIBI?"
A:"YES.";
and:
Id. at page 610
Q:"AND PART OF HIS ALIBI WAS THAT HE CALLED HIS DAD FIRST? THEN HE CALLED THE PARAMEDICS AND THEN HE CALLED THE POLICE?"
A:"YES."
Q:"AND IT WAS IN THAT ORDER?"
A:"IN THAT ORDER."
Q:"AND YOU REMEMBER THAT?"
A:"YES, I DO.";
and:
Preliminary Hearing
November 14, 1983 – Page 156
A:"YES. HE CALLED HIS FATHER AT WORK AND THEN THE PARAMEDICS AND THEN THE POLICE."
Q:"ALL RIGHT. HE TOLD YOU THAT HE MADE THOSE CALLS?"
A:"YES, SIR."
Q:"DID HE TELL YOU WHAT ORDER HE MADE THOSE CALLS?"
A:"IN THAT ORDER."
454.
Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927)
Trial
November 5, 1985 – Page 497
A:"I WAS ABLE TO ESTABLISH THAT IT WAS 11:26 [A.M.] WHEN THAT TELEPHONE CALL WAS MADE [by Bruce] TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT."
455.

While our March, 1983 home telephone bill remains in my possession, I will release its contents only to a court examining this matter because many persons, including members of my own family, still have the same numbers, and I do not wish to invade anyone's privacy. However, I give my word that any representations I make about the bill's contents are true and correct.

459.
Testimony of jail house informant Robert Donald Hughes concerning his two County Jail interviews with Van Nuys police; the first one, unrecorded, with detective Landgren, and the second, his first recorded, with Monsue.
Preliminary Hearing
October 6, 1983 – Page 202
Q:"WHEN OFFICER LANDGREN CAME TO SEE YOU THE FIRST TIME, DID HE RECORD THE CONVERSATION?"
A:"NO, SIR. I DON'T BELIEVE HE DID."
Q:"HOW MUCH TIME WAS IT BETWEEN THE FIRST TIME THAT OFFICER LANDGREN CAME TO SEE YOU AND WHEN OFFICER MONSUE CAME TO SEE YOU?"
A:"I DON'T RECALL. IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MORE THAN TWO WEEKS."
460.
Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927)
Preliminary Hearing
December 7, 1983 – Page 252
A:":..THE DAY THAT I WENT OUT THERE I HAD TALKED TO A LADY AND A GENTLEMAN WHO LIVE DIRECTLY EAST OF HIS HOME. HE WASN'T HOME AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. THEY HAD INDICATED THAT THEY HAD HEARD NOTHING UNUSUAL WHATSOEVER IN OR ABOUT THAT RESIDENCE THAT MORNING.";
and:
Id. at page 252-253
Q:"OKAY. INCIDENTALLY, THE NEIGHBORS EAST THAT YOU MENTIONED HAD NOT HEARD ANY SCREAMING, WERE THEY HOME, DID THEY SAY? AND THIS IS OFFERED STILL FOR PROBABLE CAUSE. DID THEY SAY THAT THEY WERE HOME CONTINUOUSLY THAT MORNING UP THROUGH THE TIME THAT THE POLICE AND AMBULANCE CAME OUT?"
A:"THAT'S CORRECT, THEY DID."
460A.
Detective Monsue visited me, aptly enough, on April Fool’s Day, 1983, at Sylmar Juvenile Hall. He made the following notes: [View Monsue's Notes]

"MICHAEL RYAN 17 YRS.. MAYBE 18 YRS.

"3-8-83 -- SAW HIM ABOUT A HALF A BLOCK FROM MY PARENT HOUSE. HE WAS WALKING TOWARD MY PARENTS HOUSE FROM THE TUNNEL NEAR ORION AND THE 405. IT WAS AROUND 1200.

"3-9-83 MY DAD TOLD ME HE WAS AT MY [parents'] HOME ON 3-9-83.

"RYAN HAS DONE ARMED ROBBERY WITH KNIFES BEFORE.

RYAN WROTE A LETTER TO MY GIRLFRIEND WHEN HE WAS IN JAIL FOR ONE OF THE ROBBERY. HE WAS ARRESTED BEFORE WE LIVED TOGETHER, LONG TIME BEFORE.

"COULD CHECK WITH PEOPLE A PALMER DRUG CENTER FOR INFORMATION ON RYAN. HE USED TO LIVE WITH A COUNSELOR NAMED IRA__________.

"PALMER DRUG CENTER -- OCEAN PARK BLVD, SANTA MONICA, CALIF.

"MICHAEL HAD THREATENED MY [life] ONCE WITH A THROWING KNIFE. HE WAS ALWAYS THROWING THE KNIFE IN THE WALLS OF THE APARTMENT.

"✓ WITH STEPHANIE 424-8829, 494-8829, LAGUNA BEACH
✓ WITH APRIL, SAME AS STEPHANIE
✓ WITH IRA AT PALMER.
✓ MICHAEL PARENTS LIVE IN SIMI VALLEY, (PARENTS SAME LAST NAME)

"MICHAEL KNOWS THAT I GO TO MY PARENTS HOUSE FOR MONEY; I HAD TOLD HIM THAT MY PARENTS WERE 'MONEYBAGS', 'BUT THEY WERE MY PARENTS AND HE WAS A THIEF.'

"MICHAEL HAS ROBBED HOUSE AND STOLEN GUNS AND OTHER STUFF WHILE HE LIVED WITH ME.

"ROYCE WALKER STOPPED BY MY APARTMENT THAT MORNING. HE WAS THERE FOR ABOUT 3-5 MINUTES.

"MICHAEL AND I LIVED TOGETHER FOR TWO MONTHS. I CHARGED HIM $100.00 A MONTHS -- HE HAD ASKED ME ABOUT STAYING [text obscured in copy] BECAUSE HE WAS ON THE STREET.

"MY MOTHER WOULD ALLOW ANYONE WHO KNEW ME IN THE HOUSE.

"MY PARENT HAVE ONCE LOANED ME AND MICHAEL $60 EACH TO GO TO THE WHO CONCERT. THE CONCERT WAS IN (I CAN'T REMEMBER WHEN IT WAS) [Edit: may be Oct 28/29, 1982 ?]

"I DON'T KNOW IF MICHAEL EVER WENT INTO MY PARENTS HOUSE WHEN THEY WASN'T HOME. I DON'T THINK HE DID, BECAUSE I NEVER TOLD ANYONE HOW TO GET INTO THE HOUSE, THAT WAS KIND OF MY SECRET.

"THE DAY I SAW MICHAEL, HE TOLD ME HE WAS GOING TO A FREEWAY ON-RAMP.

"MICHAEL WAS ALWAYS DRINKING. MICHAEL DID SPEED AND SMOKED POT ALOT. HE USED NEEDLES FOR THE SPEED.

"MICHAEL IS OBSESSED WITH SATAN AND THE DEVIL -- HE ALWAYS HAD THE HEAVY METAL MAGAZINES AROUND.

"I FINISHED THE 10TH GRADE, I STARTED THE 11TH, BUT I JUST [obscured] STOPPED BECAUSE I WORKED.

"MICHAEL WAS ALWAYS WRITING 666 AND DOING STUFF LIKE THAT. HE WAS INTO OZZY OSBOURNE -- YOU KNOW HE IS SUPPOSED TO BE OBSESSED WITH THE DEVIL.

"I NEVER WAS REALLY INTO THAT SORT OF THING, WE WERE DIFFERENT.

"WENT [with] LISA FOR SIX [months].

"THE LAST PLACE THAT I WENT TO I-HOP LAST TO APPLY FOR A JOB -- THEN WENT TO MY APARTMENT TO CHANGED [sic] CLOTHES THEN WENT TO MY PARENTS HOUSE.

"THE ONLY TWO FRIENDS OF MINE, WHO KNEW WHERE MY PARENTS LIVED WAS

-MICHAEL RYAN
- JOHN SCAPICCHIO -- LIVED AT TROPICA MOTEL ON VENTURA BLVD (VENTURA &
VINELAND)

"LAST TIME I SAW JOHN WAS A DAY OR TWO BEFORE CRIME."

520.
Monsue/Lisker Interrogation Transcript
March 10, 1983 – Page 36-37
MONSUE:"HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SINCE YOU WERE IN THE HOUSE PRIOR TO TODAY?"
LISKER:"PRIOR TO TODAY?"
MONSUE:"UH HUH."
LISKER:"LAST NIGHT,"
MONSUE:"LAST NIGHT."
LISKER:"I GOT SOME MONEY FROM MY DAD, $10.00 HE GAVE TO ME." and Id, at page 16
LISKER:"... I THINK, SHE'S SO GOOD, I THINK IF I HAD THE CHANCE, FOR GOD TO TRADE A LIFE, TAKE MY LIFE WITHOUT [pain]. AND, AND GIVE HER AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIVE. I THINK I WOULD DO THAT. I WOULD SHARE IT BETWEEN MY PARENTS, BECAUSE THEY ARE THE BEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. I MEAN, I HAVE COME OVER PROBABLY EVERY NIGHT SINCE I'VE MOVED OUT, SEVEN, EIGHT MONTHS AGO FOR MONEY AND FOOD. AND THEY GIVE IT TO ME EVERY DAY." [emphasis added];
and:
Testimony of Andrew R. Monsue (20927)
Trial
November 5, 1985 – Page 479
Q:"HE TOLD YOU HE HAD, GOTTEN TEN BUCKS FROM HIS DAD ON MARCH 9, 1983?"
A:"THAT FIGURE SOUNDS RIGHT."
Q:"DID HE TELL YOU THAT IF HE EVER NEEDED MONEY OR ANYTHING, HE WOULD JUST ASK HIS MOM AND DAD FOR THE MONEY?"
A:"YES, HE MADE STATEMENTS LIKE THAT."
Q:"DID YOU EVER ASK IF HIS FATHER SUPPLIED HIM WITH MONEY AND THE PLACE WHERE HE LIVED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT?"
A:"YES, WE HAD CONVERSATIONS DEALING WITH THAT AREA. SPECIFICALLY WHAT WAS SAID I CAN'T RECALL.";
And:
Testimony of Robert B, Lisker
Trial
November 14, 1985 – Page 958-959
A:"HE ASKED ME FOR MONEY FOR GAS AND I SAID, 'WHAT FOR?' AND HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO GO OUT JOB HUNTING AND I SAID, 'YOU BETTER GET A HAIRCUT BEFORE YOU GO JOB HUNTING IF YOU CAN.I 'I
Q:"AND WHAT DID HE SAY?"
A:"HE SAID HE WOULD IF HE HAD THE TIME, AND IF I WOULD GIVE HIM THE MONEY."
Q:"DID YOU GIVE HIM THE MONEY FOR THAT?"
A:"NO,"
Q:"YOU DIDN'T GIVE HIM MONEY FOR GAS?"
A:"I GAVE HIM MONEY FOR GAS.";
and:
Id. at page 952
A:"THE REASON I ASKED HIM TO LEAVE IS HE HAD DECIDED HE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL ANY LONGER, AND I TOLD HIM VERY FRANKLY IT WAS TIME IF HE DIDN'T WANT TO GO TO SCHOOL THAT HE GOT OUT ON HIS OWN AND I WOULD PAY _HIS RENT UNTIL HE WAS 18 OR UNTIL HE GOT A JOB AND THAT IF WAS UP TO HIM TO FIND A JOB AND SUPPORT HIMSELF," [emphasis added]
565.

[Footnote 565 is not present in the source Footnotes - 1-719.docx. Bruce — please add the citation here.]

566.

[Footnote 566 is not present in the source Footnotes - 1-719.docx. Bruce — please add the citation here.]

571.
Testimony of Medical Examiner Irwin L. Golden when asked to determine how many times he thought my mother had been struck over the head, Trial
November 28, 1984 – Page 208 - "IT LOOKS TO BE AT LEAST TEN."
573.
Testimony of Medical Examiner Irwin L. Golden, Trial
November 28, 1984 – Page 206
A:"... SO THERE IS HEMORRHAGE INTO THE SCALP, THERE IS EXTENSIVE HEMORRHAGE TO THE SCALP."
574.
Testimony of Medical Examiner Irwin L. Golden that the head wounds were caused by the attacker wielding the trophy in-hand, rather that throwing it, Trial
November 28, 1984 – Page 282
Q:"THERE WERE TWO [wounds] ON THE BACK OF THE HEAD AS YOU POINTED OUT. DO YOU RECALL THAT?"
A:"YES."
A:"THOSE TYPES OF LACERATIONS ARE MORE READILY CAUSED BY AN OBJECT HELD IN THE HAND."
and:
Testimony of Medical Examiner Irwin L. Golden that the head wounds were caused by the attacker wielding the trophy in-hand, rather that throwing it, Trial
Testimony of Deputy Medical Examiner Irwin L. Golden that my mother's trophy-wielding attacker had stood quite close to her during that attack, Trial, November 28, 1984 – Page 267
Q:"FOR THAT INSTRUMENT (i.e., the trophy] TO BE USED IN ORDER FOR THAT INSTRUMENT TO HAVE CAUSED [some of the head injuries], SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE GRABBED THE LOWER PORTION OF THAT TROPHY AND BE AWFUL CLOSE TO DORKA LISKER; IS THAT CORRECT? IF THAT INSTRUMENT WAS USED, THE TROPHY, SOMEONE WOULD HAVE HAD TO HAVE BEEN PRETTY CLOSE TO HER TO CAUSE THAT TYPE OF INJURY?"
A:"YES, I WOULD SAY SO. YES."
576.
Testimony of Medical Examiner Irwin L. Golden, Trial
November 28, 1984 – Page 216
Q:"IN EXAMINING THE BODY OF DORKA LISKER, DID YOU FIND ANY DEFENSE WOUNDS?"
A:"YES."
Q:"WOULD YOU TELL US WHERE?"
A:"THERE WERE MANY SHARP FORCE WOUNDS TO THE LEFT HAND."
A:"YES, THEY COULD HAVE."
Q:"WERE THERE ANY INJURIES ON THE LEFT HAND THAT COULD BE CAUSED BY WARDING OFF BLOWS FROM A BLUNT INSTRUMENT?"
Q:"OKAY. WERE THERE ANY OTHER INJURIES ON THE RIGHT HAND BESIDES THE BRUISES ON THE KNUCKLES?"
A:"NO..."
582.

LAPD Property Report, dated 3-10-83 1500 hours, indicating that my fingernail clippings were collected "BY SHB [i.e., S. H. Bassett] AT VALLEY CRIME LAB FROM SUSPECT BRUCE LISKER IN THE PRESENCE OF DET. MONSUE VNYS DET. BOOKED VNYS TO TRANSFER TO CENT. PROP.";

Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927) Trial
November 4, 1985 – Page 414-415
A:"I INSTRUCTED A MEMBER OF THE SID SECTION, WHICH IS OUR SCIENTIFIC INVESTIGATION DIVISION THERE IN VAN NUYS, TO RECOVER SOME SCRAPINGS BOTH FROM HIS FINGERNAILS AND SOME CLIPPINGS OF THOSE NAILS." ...
Q:"DID THAT OCCUR IN YOUR PRESENCE?"
A:"YES, I WAS IN THE ROOM."
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584.
LAPD Follow-Up Investigation, page 10 - "DR. GOLDEN STATED THAT [it] ... WOULD BE VERY CONSISTENT WITH VICTIM'S INJURIES TO HER RIGHT ARM [having been caused by] A LARGE, HEAVY INSTRUMENT (SUCH AS THE EXERCISE BAR)."; and Testimony of LAPD detective Andrew R. Monsue (No. 20927), Dennis H./William M. Juvenile Detention Hearing
April 4, 1983 – Page 59
A:"... AND WHEN THE BLOW FROM THE EXERCISE BAR CAME DOWN, BASED ON WHAT THE DOCTOR INDICATED, THAT ONE BLOW FRACTURED THE ARM ..."
602.
Testimony of LAFD paramedic Jay Lovato
Trial
November 29, 1984 – Page 306
"... WE CAME THROUGH THAT WAY ... AND THE LADY WAS LAYING FACE DOWN RIGHT IN THERE.
and:
id. at page 304 "... WE FOUND AN ELDERLY LADY LAYING FACE DOWN IN THE HALLWAY."
609.

Los Angeles County Autopsy Report No. 83-3174 (Lisker, Dorka G.), Detail 20F featuring Dr. Golden's handwritten notation indicating that "ROPE MARKS" were found on the back and left side of Mrs. Lisker's throat.

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647.
Los Angeles County Autopsy Report No.83-3_17_4 (Lisker, Dorka G.)
Page 3 - "IN THE MIDPORTION OF THE FOREHEAD, RIGHT SIDE, THERE IS A 3 INCH LONG SUTURED LACERATION CLOSED WITH MULTIPLE SUTURES. EXPLORATION REVEALS THE DEFECT IN THE FRONTAL BONE WHICH IS PATCHED WITH GAUZE. BONE FRAGMENTS ARE SUBMITTED SEPARATELY. THE DEFECT EXTENDS DOWN TO THE ANTERIOR CRANIAL FOSSA AND DURA IS VISIBLE."; and id. at page 6 - "CRANIOCEREBRAL INJURIES: 1. THE LACERATIONS OF THE BACK OF THE SCALP HAVE BEEN DESCRIBED. THE SUTURED LACERATION OF THE RIGHT FOREHEAD HAS BEEN DESCRIBED WITH THE ASSOCIATED DEFECT IN THE FRONTAL BONE EXTENDING DOWN TO THE SINUSES AND ANTERIOR CRANIAL FOSSA. THERE IS EXTENSIVE DEEP SCALP AND SUBGALEAL HEMORRHAGE INTO THE LEFT AND RIGHT TEMPORAL MUSCLES. A LARGE DEFECT IS FOUND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FRONTAL BONE CROSSING THE MIDLINE TO THE LEFT AND EXTENDING POSTERIORLY TO THE RIGHT PERIETAL BONE. THE FRONTAL SINUSES ARE VISIBLE AND BRAIN AND DURA ARE ALSO VISIBLE."; and id. - "2. THERE ARE COMMINUTED FRACTURES OF THE BASE OF THE SKULL AND THE LEFT AND RIGHT ANTERIOR CRANIAL FOSSA WITH HEMORRHAGIC ORBITAL TISSUE VISIBLE. COMMINUTED FRACTURES ARE EVIDENT IN THE SELLA TURCICA, BOTH LONGITUDINAL AND TRANSVERSE. THERE ARE BILATERAL COMMINUTED FRACTURES OF THE LEFT AND RIGHT SPHENOID WINGS. A HINGE FRACTURE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BASE OF THE SKULL EXTENDS DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE RIGHT PETROUS TEMPORAL BONE, INTERSECTS WITH THE FRACTURE OF THE SELLA TURCICA, AND THEN CONTINUES ANTERIORLY ALONG THE SPHENOID RIDGE INTO THE CRIBRIFORM PLATE. ON THE UNDERSURFACE OF THE CALVARIUM THERE IS A LINEAR FRACTURE EXTENDING FROM THE DEFECT ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE CALVARIUM DIAGONALLY ACROSS THE CORONAL STRUCTURE TO THE LEFT PARIETAL BONE. SUTURES ARE FOUND ON THE FALX CEREBRI AND ALONG THE MIDLINE OF THE DURA (SURGICAL PROCEDURE)."; and Id. - "3. THE UNDERSURFACE OF THE BRAIN REVEALS MULTIPLE CONTUSION HEMORRHAGES, CONFLUENT, ON THE RIGHT ORBITAL LOBE AND ON THE INFERIOR SURFACE OF THE RIGHT TEMPORAL LOBE, EXTENDING TO THE TEMPORAL LOBE.";
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651.
Los Angeles County Autopsy Report No. 83-3174 (Lisker, Dorka G.)
Page 7
"DESCRIPTION OF STAB WOUNDS: 1. ON THE BACK OF THE BODY, 11 INCHES BELOW THE TOP OF THE HEAD AND 6 INCHES TO THE LEFT OF THE MIDLINE THERE IS NOTED A VERTICALLY ORIENTED STAB WOUND. THIS MEASURES 5/8 INCH IN LENGTH AND IS APPROXIMATELY TRIANGULAR IN CONFIGURATION. A FLATTENED OR DULL BORDER IS SEEN SUPERIORLY, 1/32 INCH IN LENGTH. THE INFERIOR BORDER IS POINTED. NO OTHER PATTERNED ABRASION OR CONTUSION IS SEEN. SUBSEQUENT AUTOPSY SHOWS THAT THE WOUND PASSED THROUGH THE SKIN, THE SOFT TISSUE, THE 4TH INTERCOSTAL SPACE, AND PRODUCES A SMALL LACERATION OR TEAR OF THE PLEURA WITH SURROUNDING HEMORRHAGE. THE TEAR MEASURES 1/8 INCH IN MAXIMAL LENGTH. THE WOUND PATH DOES NOT PASS INTO THE LUNG. THE ENTIRE WOUND PATH IS INFILTRATED WITH FRESH HEMORRHAGE AND THE DIRECTION IS BACK TO FRONT AND DOWNWARD AT AN ACUTE ANGLE, APPROXIMATELY 30 DEGREES FROM THE VERTICAL. THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THE WOUND PATH IS APPROXIMATELY 3-1/2 INCHES."
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Los Angeles County Autopsy Report No. 83-3174 (Lisker, Dorka G.)
Page 7
"2. ON THE BACK OF THE TORSO, 15 INCHES BELOW THE TOP OF THE HEAD AND 1-1/2 INCHES TO THE LEFT OF THE MIDLINE THERE IS A DIAGONALLY ORIENTED STAB WOUND. THIS MEASURES 3/4 INCH IN LENGTH WITH THE FLATTENED OR SQUARED OFF PORTION INFERIORLY LESS THAN 1/32 INCH. NO OTHER PATTERNED ABRASION OR CONTUSION IS EVIDENT. SUBSEQUENT AUTOPSY SHOWS THE WOUND PASSED THROUGH THE SKIN, THE SOFT TISSUE, THE 5TH INTERCOSTAL SPACE NICKING THE SUPERIOR BORDER OF THE LEFT 6TH RIB, PASSING THROUGH THE RIB CAGE. THE LENGTH OF THE STAB WOUND IS 5/8 INCH WITH THE SQUARED OFF PORTION EVIDENT INFERIORLY. IT THEN PASSES INTO THE LOWER LOBE OF THE LEFT LUNG WHERE THE WOUND MEASURES 1/2 INCH IN MAXIMAL LENGTH. THE ENTIRE WOUND PATH IS INFILTRATED WITH FRESH HEMORRHAGE AND THERE IS 1600 ML. OF LIQUID AND CLOTTED BLOOD IN THE LEFT CHEST CAVITY. THE DIRECTION OF THE WOUND PATH IS BACK TO FRONT, AND DOWNWARD AT AN APPROXIMATELY 45 DEGREE ANGLE FROM THE VERTICAL. THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THE WOUND PATH IS 4-1/2 TO 5 INCHES."
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